LargeStyle
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Hi all,
I know I'm going to get totally slated for this, but I'm a newbee in speaker technology so please bear with me....
Short version:
I basically tried using a tweeter from a Wharfedale Xarus 5000 speaker on a TDL Studio 10 speaker and I smelt a wierd burning smell from within the speaker case (I had one speaker hole empty at the time so the smell was quite apparent). It was only ran for approx 30 seconds, the smell became noticable, I immediately turned everything off and haven't tried it since. It was obvious something wasn't right, so what exactly was happening?
Long version:
The reason why I tried this is because I love the TDL's for their looks, mid and bass performance, but the treble isn't great at all, and the Xarus 5000's look worse, have bad mid performance, but the treble is what I'm after - hence the decision to swap the tweeters over and make one all-round speaker as a potentially quick fix.
Before doing all this I checked each speakers rating:
TDL Studio 10: 20-125W, 4-8 Ohms
Wharfedale Xarus 5000: 25-250W, 6 Ohms
I don't know enough about speaker ratings, but using logic these seemed "compatible", so I went ahead with it all.
Again, what was burning up, why was this happening, and what can I do (if anything) to achieve my mission?
I assume the board within the TDL (with the coil and things on it) isn't capable / tolerant enough to run the tweeter. If this is the case, can I use the boards from the Xarus's within the TDL's, or is my plan of making 1 speaker out of 2 a seriously bad idea?
Even if I used a capable board, would the extra wattage of the Xarus' tweeter effectively out perform the TDL's mid and bass speakers?
FWIW the amp used is: Pioneer VSX-LX50 (7.1 150W per channel amp). I've had this amp for a couple of years and have been constantly tweaking every setting for all that time, so I know I can't achieve any better result by any further amp tweaking. Until I learn more, I have now restored all speakers to their original state and am running both TDLs and Xarus as front speakers using the amps Surround Back system to power each pair properly - but I don't want 2 floor standing speakers either side of my tv, and I want my surround back channels again, so the current setup is a temporary fix.
Lastly, funds are near non-existent, hence homebrew tweaks, so buying new speakers isn't an option.
Sorry for the extreme noob and probably stupid questions, but as you can no doubt tell, I'm clueless with this kinda thing.
Thank-you in advance for any help / suggestions.
EDIT: I forgot to mention: the internal speaker wires for the Xarus' are red and black, the TDL's are 1x black with green stripe (what assumed was the Xarus' red) and 1x black (what assumed was the Xarus' black) - was my assumption correct, and if it wasn't, how would that affect things?
I know I'm going to get totally slated for this, but I'm a newbee in speaker technology so please bear with me....
Short version:
I basically tried using a tweeter from a Wharfedale Xarus 5000 speaker on a TDL Studio 10 speaker and I smelt a wierd burning smell from within the speaker case (I had one speaker hole empty at the time so the smell was quite apparent). It was only ran for approx 30 seconds, the smell became noticable, I immediately turned everything off and haven't tried it since. It was obvious something wasn't right, so what exactly was happening?
Long version:
The reason why I tried this is because I love the TDL's for their looks, mid and bass performance, but the treble isn't great at all, and the Xarus 5000's look worse, have bad mid performance, but the treble is what I'm after - hence the decision to swap the tweeters over and make one all-round speaker as a potentially quick fix.
Before doing all this I checked each speakers rating:
TDL Studio 10: 20-125W, 4-8 Ohms
Wharfedale Xarus 5000: 25-250W, 6 Ohms
I don't know enough about speaker ratings, but using logic these seemed "compatible", so I went ahead with it all.
Again, what was burning up, why was this happening, and what can I do (if anything) to achieve my mission?
I assume the board within the TDL (with the coil and things on it) isn't capable / tolerant enough to run the tweeter. If this is the case, can I use the boards from the Xarus's within the TDL's, or is my plan of making 1 speaker out of 2 a seriously bad idea?
Even if I used a capable board, would the extra wattage of the Xarus' tweeter effectively out perform the TDL's mid and bass speakers?
FWIW the amp used is: Pioneer VSX-LX50 (7.1 150W per channel amp). I've had this amp for a couple of years and have been constantly tweaking every setting for all that time, so I know I can't achieve any better result by any further amp tweaking. Until I learn more, I have now restored all speakers to their original state and am running both TDLs and Xarus as front speakers using the amps Surround Back system to power each pair properly - but I don't want 2 floor standing speakers either side of my tv, and I want my surround back channels again, so the current setup is a temporary fix.
Lastly, funds are near non-existent, hence homebrew tweaks, so buying new speakers isn't an option.
Sorry for the extreme noob and probably stupid questions, but as you can no doubt tell, I'm clueless with this kinda thing.
Thank-you in advance for any help / suggestions.
EDIT: I forgot to mention: the internal speaker wires for the Xarus' are red and black, the TDL's are 1x black with green stripe (what assumed was the Xarus' red) and 1x black (what assumed was the Xarus' black) - was my assumption correct, and if it wasn't, how would that affect things?
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