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  1. JFRTDI

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    Hi all,

    Moved into a ground floor apartment 3 weeks ago and ever since have noticed nothing but cold bed sheets / bed no matter if the heating is on for hours before we go bed. We have to take a hot water bottle its that cold during the night. There is also condensation on the inside windows come morning.

    They are wooden windows but dont seem to have vents. The only gaps i can see are potential ones around the seals where the window sits and possibly where the wood frames change.

    We had an issue in the living room with a massive draft which was under the patio doors which i filled with foam and is now fine.

    Can anyone suggest what i could do? I was thinking of sealing around the windows with some form of sealeant but unsure what to use. Also there is a few cracks where the skirting has come away from the wall being only 4 years old.

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  2. paulyoung666

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    Do you close the curtains or rely on blinds ? ...
     
  3. JFRTDI

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    Close the curtains at night thats about it. Also dnt know if it makes a diff but its quite a large room.
     
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    My flat was ground floor, and it was always Baltic too.
    I put it down to the massive underfloor space, which you could almost stand up in, and all the venting that went into that space.
    It was like a fridge down there.
    Hard to heat somewhere above that. :-(
    I knew plenty of people in the scheme with flats at 1st floor and above, and they weren't cold at all.
     
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    Does this make much of a difference?

    I only ask because we should be moving into our new place soon and thinking of getting blinds instead of curtains.
     
  6. JFRTDI

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    See the windows dnt seem to have vents which i found odd. The other bedroom does not feel as cold although dont sleep in there. In general the room dont feel as cold as bed/sheets when getting into it
     
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    Electric blanket.
     
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    Is there any damp or is it just cold?
     
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    Might be more phycological than anything else :D , if there are radiators check they are sized properly ...
     
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    Depends on the curtains, but generally yes as they tend to be thicker and provide more insulation. Many years ago my husband and I moved into a mobile home on a cliff top in west Cumbria in January. It was quite literally freezing (cup of water would freeze overnight). We couldn't afford proper curtains so I bought a load of thermal lining fabric and made cheap but generous full length curtains out of that. Raised the temperatures by about 5 degrees just by keeping all available heat inside!
     
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    Sheets?

    How about you use a Winter Duvet (instead of even a Summer one).

    Another idea might be to wear a hat of some sort and also a thermal vest and some long johns (get three = one on, one spare and one in the wash).

    And if the place is freezing cold because of a massive underfloor cavity and you are renting, then move at the earliest opportunity.

    If you have bought the place, then I would investigate if you can get underneath this floor and somehow fix up some thick insulation board and which meets Fire Regulations. This should make an enormous difference.

    eg, Insulating suspended timber floors | Green DIY & self-build | Green specification | Green Building Store

    The rest is to do with draught proofing, double glazing, thick lined curtains.
     
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    I've just re-thought this....

    If the freezing cold bed and sheet are the ones on which you are laying and exclude the duvet/top sheets thenyou might get some instant relief from a good foam mattress topper.

    One of the downsides with them is that some people find them too hot!
     
  13. JFRTDI

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    I dont think there is any damp no. I think its general draft from somewhere. We do have a duvet i was refering to the bed sheet and duvet being cold. We have a memory foam mattress which at first the wife auggested it might be that but im not so sure. Ive held a lighter near the window and it blows so somethin coming from somewhere. Clothes in the wardrobe feel fine as does the carpet with bare feet. All rathet odd
     
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    A bit of Decorators Caulk around the window and skirting.
     
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    Is there a gap under the window sill, this could direct any draft across at bed level.
    What sort of heating do you have, where are radiators positioned?
     
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    The memory foam mattress rules out an electric blanket.

    It could well be the problem so try putting a blanket over the top or a couple of large towels, just to see if that helps. If it does then you could maybe look at a quilted mattress cover, but I don't know if there'd be any issues using one with memory foam.
     
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    My bedroom is ground floor,it would be as i live in a bungalow :D

    Sounds like a fault with the heating to me as my misses puts the heating on,and within minutes the rooms are boiling.

    I don't have the rad on in my room though as i can't stand it.
     
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    took a few pictures last night, as you can see ive already used that foam stuff which did nothing but hey ho :smashin:

    I think the draft may be coming from the skirt board as theres a decent size gap between that and the wall, but there is also gaps on the frames too with a bit of drafts.

    Also the bedroom wall with window on to touch is very cold but its the same in the other room.

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    Decorators caulk where window meets wall and for skirting:-
    Toolstation > Adhesives & Sealants > Caulks > Decorators Caulk 310ml

    Simple stuff to use, excess can be wiped with a wet sponge

    Within the window you need some kind of frame sealant but you want a colour that will match so take your pic:-
    Toolstation > Adhesives & Sealants > General Sealants

    Alternatively use a clear silicone sealant.

    A bit more skill involved in frame sealants and silicone. A silicone tool or finger dipped in washing up liguid/water will help you here.
     
  20. pragmatic

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    Can use a candle in the room to find the draft (HowStuffWorks "How to Find Drafts in a House").

    If you can't fix it or until you do you can try:

    If your not already try using both a fitted and a flat sheet, flitted goes over mattress, fitted goes over that with hospital corners to make a snug fit (Learn "Hospital Corners" for a Crisply-Made Bed) keeps the heat from flying out and your feet from being exposed. The duvet can just lie on top, doesn't need to be folded in. If you use a hot water bottle you'll get a toasty area for your feet when you get in.

    Wearing a long sleeve top can help surprisingly and an electric blanket is a god sent but I think you mentioned you couldn't use one.
     
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    cheers guys, will give the caulk a go first. I assume it does not matter if there is no vent in the window frame then and no issues with me sealing the skirting/frame if i even bother with the frame?

    thanks
     
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    Yes, get it sealed up. I used to have a small crack under my window board on my bay window. It was amazing what a difference it made when i sealed it up.

    On a cold day and if the wind was blowing in a certain direction, you could really feel it. Especially on naked Wednesdays.
     
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    why does the memory foam mattress rule out a electric blanket? i have an under sheet electric blanket that has very low voltage that can be left on all night.
     
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    Because the way that memory foam mattresses work is to respond to body heat
     
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    Dont forget to warm up ANY bedroom, turn the dial up on THE LURRRRRRVE to MAX.

    Failing that, lined heavy curtains in our house make a big difference :)
     
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    Heat rises, cold air falls. :lesson:
     
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    Whilst that is true, having a cold floor certainly has an impact on the perceived temperature of the room. The heat finds it difficult to get to the floor for the above reason.

    I live in a ground floor flat and recently converted the basement at the front of the property. The room above is significantly warmer than the rear of the property where there is just a void.

    Is the radiator under the window (conventional wisdom suggests this is the best place). Maybe the system just needs balancing if it isn't getting hot enough. That involved basically restricting the heat on the radiators in the other rooms, so there is enough left to heat the bedroom properly.

    After that, you may need to consider insulation but that depends on the construction.

    Hope you get it sorted.
     
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    These are the two options that ring true with me.
    I stay in old Victorian style house.

    I have a space between the solum (ground under house) and the floor on ground floor of about 3ft. My floors are very cold to walk so I think having some insulation between the floor joists and the floor while they will not heat the room up it might stop the room from loosing heat so quickly and cold air getting in.

    I have single glazed windows (conservation will not allow new double glazed uPVC - Grr!) which are being damp proofed and once they have done that I plan to do what Wahreo suggested and decorators caulk the gaps. For the slightly larger ones I plan to wedge strips of wood into them and the caulk over them also the skirtings round the room have gaps at the bottom of them where the floor is uneven, again caulk should sort that out. If you plan on painting, varnishing or waxing the wood then I would suggest an acrylic caulk and not silicone as silicone (I am sure) cannot be painted painted over.

    Lastly thick curtains I can testify will keep the heat in the room and stop heat escaping via the gaps round your windows.
     
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    Can you have secondary glazing in a conservation area? Its pretty much a second internal window that has double glazing. I've seen this several older houses, and from the outside you'd never know they had them.
     
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    Yeah probably could but double glazing is not that cheap. I also want to keep the asthetics inside and would much rather have a a heavily lined thick curtain acting as a barrier until I can afford real wood doube glazed windows (which is likely to be Never).

    I have also heard you can get uPVC windows with wooden effects but that sort of thing fills m wife with horror... I mean obviously I wear the trousers so if I wanted them then that would be it!!! :devil:

    That said SWMBO tells me what trousers to wear so maybe not!
     

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