Clutch & Flywheel question

alexs2

Well-known Member
The main thing on the M5 buyers guide is the clutch and flywheel condition.

I will sell in 3,000 miles with a practically brand new one. Has to help the resale value.
Won't hurt it,put it that way,but you know what the resale value of these cars is like currently.

500bhp and < 20mpg is one thing,and 500bhp with 30+mpg is another.

All I'm saying is I'm sure it was fun,but it sounds like you've had enough of it.
 

Mr_Wistles

Distinguished Member
No way near had enough of it and I am counting down the minutes until I can pick it up. I actually dream about this car, it is pure driving nirvana. I have never had a car that I looked forward to driving.

People who buy these cars don't care about the MPG (well I certainly don't) as do my friends who own similar cars.

I always intended to only have it for a year or so. I have noticed that in the past six months this specific car seems to have gone up. Mine is 2008 with every option and I paid £21k, cheapest I can find the same for now is c. £24k. I am confident that I will break even or possibly even make a bit.

My wife on the other hand hates it and wants to go back to a Range Rover.

500bhp and < 20mpg is one thing,and 500bhp with 30+mpg is another.
- 500bhp and 30+mpg will cost you a hell of a lot more than £20k.
 

alexs2

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500bhp and < 20mpg is one thing,and 500bhp with 30+mpg is another.
- 500bhp and 30+mpg will cost you a hell of a lot more than £20k.
True.....it has already.

I've always said it represents an amazing amount of car and technology for the money,as a used car(sometimes a little too much technology ala SMG for instance).

There are very few other ways of getting that much for less than £20k,and no-one can argue that.
 

Mr_Wistles

Distinguished Member
Just picked it up and they did the MOT for free and gave me a full tank of petrol. Shout out to Fairfield BMW.

Seems a bit faster, much smoother changes.
 

cunny678

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I'm suprised that you have not convinced yourself that having saved £3000+ you can upgrade your AV kit for free:D
 

Mr_Wistles

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Another problem last week.

Took it out on Sunday down to the cash and carry, drove down fine, no problems at all. Started it up after and "Bong" - "DSC Failure top speed limited". Reduced me to 4000rpm and would not let me go above 50. Was odd flooring it and not getting anywhere.

Took it to the dealers and it was a brand new DSC unit which cost £2.4k including fitting, again all covered by the warranty.

Speaking to the service desk after and he said that if you have an M3/5/6 over 3 years old you either have a warranty or you are rich. I am glad I have the former.
 

DVD-Man

Well-known Member
My BIL has an E60 M5, it's had close to 5K of warranty bits since he got it, he's getting rid before the warranty is out, another itch scratched.
 

alexs2

Well-known Member
Another problem last week.

Took it out on Sunday down to the cash and carry, drove down fine, no problems at all. Started it up after and "Bong" - "DSC Failure top speed limited". Reduced me to 4000rpm and would not let me go above 50. Was odd flooring it and not getting anywhere.

Took it to the dealers and it was a brand new DSC unit which cost £2.4k including fitting, again all covered by the warranty.

Speaking to the service desk after and he said that if you have an M3/5/6 over 3 years old you either have a warranty or you are rich. I am glad I have the former.
I recall a lot of us giving that advice when you were buying.

These things are great to own if someone else is paying for all of the broken parts.
 

mjn

Distinguished Member
Yeah, you need the deepest pockets in the world to own a M5 without a warranty!

Anyone checked the price if an M5 exhaust :eek:
 

imightbewrong

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Speaking to the service desk after and he said that if you have an M3/5/6 over 3 years old you either have a warranty or you are rich. I am glad I have the former.
I thought you had both :p
 

imightbewrong

Distinguished Member
Yeah, you need the deepest pockets in the world to own a M5 without a warranty!

Anyone checked the price if an M5 exhaust :eek:
Someone told me (on here?) you would be parting with 10K+ to replace an M5 exhaust. They do seem like an incredible money pit.

Having said that I know someone with an RS4 and they seem just as bad. One day his suspension needed serious repairs - many thousands - they service guy said 'that happens sometimes - if it isn't perfectly balanced' or some such rubbish - they wanted to charge him for it, but he convinced them to do it for free, as he had only semi-recently bought it. I think the fact he was kicking up a fuss while another customer was about to spend a lot of cash helped his cause :)
 
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alexs2

Well-known Member
Someone told me (on here?) you would be parting with 10K+ to replace an M5 exhaust. They do seem like an incredible money pit.

Having said that I know someone with an RS4 and they seem just as bad. One day his suspension needed serious repairs - many thousands - they service guy said 'that happens sometimes - if it isn't perfectly balanced' or some such rubbish - they wanted to charge him for it, but he convinced them to do it for free, as he had only semi-recently bought it. I think the fact he was kicking up a fuss while another customer was about to spend a lot of cash helped his cause :)
I think the point is that if you buy a reasonably costly performance car,whichever it may be,then whilst the cost of ownership isn't prohibitive for daily running,it's the costs of parts,and maintenance for them that really can shock those who buy them as used cars.

RS4s are in general pretty reliable,but transmissions and gearboxes are costly,although specialist tuners can often source parts at lower cost,and are often able to diagnose and fix problems that a main delaer will simply replace with new(i.e. expensive) parts.

4WD systems(inc suspension) on a number of performance cars can be very expensive.......a set of dampers for an "ordinary" car may come to a couple of hundred pounds,but those for a rather quicker car may run to a couple of thousand for instance.
 

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