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Or floating prisonsCruise ships are really just floating hotels.
Or floating prisonsCruise ships are really just floating hotels.
You have to put that into perspective. It's not reasonable to simply compare China's 1.4 billion people with the UK's 67 million and say China's worse than us because they produce more CO2. A better indication is CO2 emissions per head of population.So basically, what's the point of the UK crippling itself financially to reduce carbon emissions when the USA and China aren't going to do anything? I'm all for stopping the overuse of plastic, reducing pollution and anything else that might help like subsidising electric vehicles. But when you look at this chart, the most sensible thing we can do is divert all those billions into preparing for the inevitable - flood defences being top of the list.
Each Country's Share of CO2 Emissions
You have to put that into perspective. It's not reasonable to simply compare China's 1.4 billion people with the UK's 67 million and say China's worse than us because they produce more CO2. A better indication is CO2 emissions per head of population.
And in fact the same (excellent) website gives those figures.
CO2 by Country
Saudi Arabia and Australia are the worst, with 16 tonnes per head. Then the USA and Canada at 15. Russia, Japan and Germany are at about 9. China is 12th at 6.4, and the UK 13th at 5.6.
So it is unfair on China simply to single them out because they produce more CO2 than everybody else. In fact, although they are building coal-fired stations at an impressive rate, they are trying hard to limit emissions. Their rate of growth is slowing, and is forecast to peak within a decade or so, if not sooner.
The ones to watch are India and Indonesia, at only 1.6 or so at present. They are huge countries and bid fair to grow their economies at a fast rate. They will need support from the rest of the world to ensure they can manage emissions whilst doing so.
Global pollution is a global problem, and we must all do our bit. The real villain of the piece at the moment is the USA. In fact, I really don't think their attitude will last very long, but even if it does, they will simply see themselves being left behind and have to pay expensive catch-up later.
Sound logic...when you hear the siren it's time to get in the bunker, not start a campaign for nuclear disarmament.
Maybe a good start would be removing VAT from Energy saving materials,not increasing it
Insulation works both ways It can keep heat out, just as well as keeping it in. Insulating your loft can help keep the heat in the loft in the summer rather than it cooking the house, especially in a bungalow which I think you may have?I will be getting loft insulation done this year so a consideration, hit 35C this year.
I will be getting loft insulation done this year so a consideration, hit 35C this year.
Correct and it will be foam insulation on the inside of the roof rather than fibre on top of the ceiling, hopefully it will help to reduce heating in the summer.Insulation works both ways It can keep heat out, just as well as keeping it in. Insulating your loft can help keep the heat in the loft in the summer rather than it cooking the house, especially in a bungalow which I think you may have?
If you have a spare 12 mins I'd like to recommend watching this as it's very interesting.
Watched this this morning and found it very through provoking with putting things into perspective.
Pause for a moment and think of all the hyped up frenzy in the current media about the OMG shock horror of a sea levels and land.
A few inches here, a few feet there, and stories of almost worlds end for human civilization as we know it.
And consider what's shown in this video to hopefully pull back some level of perspective here on reality and how our short term worries are nothing compared to just the normal state of quite recent changes,
Agreed.....Yet coastal properties continue to rise in valueGlobal sea level rises, of even a few 10's of cm, are a big worry.
And there are more humans these days living around the coastal areas so there would be a lot more loss of life.Fascinating video! Really good stuff.
But I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Sure, sea levels have fluctuated dramatically at times; locally, like this event, or globally.
But think of the effect the refilling of the Med would have had on its inhabitants. Imagine what would have happened if there were humans around then, with the equivalents of Venice, Barcelona, Marseilles, etc on the shore lines.
In today's world it wouldn't take much more than a metre or so of sea level rise to inundate population centres with millions of inhabitants. Even London and New York would be at risk. A metre may not sound like much, but add it to 'normal' extreme weather events such as tidal surges and hurricanes, and you get severe problems.
Sure, London and New York could adapt by spending a few $billion on improved defences. But much of Micronesia, Bangladesh, West Africa, the Caribbean, could not.
Global sea level rises, of even a few 10's of cm, are a big worry.
There's a chronic shortage of housing in the UK and ALL property has increased to silly money. People need somewhere to live now, even if it might not be there in 30 years time.Agreed.....Yet coastal properties continue to rise in value
Where is the evidence to support your claim that coastal properties which are at risk of disappearing are increasing above national averages?I wasn't just referring to the UK..
Two identical properties,one on the coast and one more inland,which will likely have the most value..
I know there is a housing shortage but if these properties might not be there in 30 years their value should at least remain relatively stagnant compared to inland properties shouldn't they unless that will only happen once the sea is upon the door step..
Just a thought
Where is the evidence to support your claim that coastal properties which are at risk of disappearing are increasing above national averages?
I don't recall saying coastal properties are increasing above national averages,they may be but i never made that claim...I have no interest in national averages any more than anyone else,you have interest in property you want to buy..Where is the evidence to support your claim that coastal properties which are at risk of disappearing are increasing above national averages?
Exactly...When the most logical thing to do would be to head for the hills imhoWell you could look at the example of Dubai - people want ocean front property and they only had a small amount of ocean front - so they built a lot more ocean front to meet demand.