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  1. DeanE

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    Help me ....

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    I am surprised there wasn't a thread for this already, but was wondering how people are getting on with this? How many hero souls do you have? How many times you have ascended etc.?

    Damn, I can't stop playing this thing. I should add, I am currently sitting at 365 hero souls and have ascended about 30 times.

     

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    That's quite a few hero souls - how many Ancients have you bought? I have an "idle" setup going and have bought Ancients that support that style of play. I've ascended about 30 times as well. Highest level so far is 204. Am sticking to speed runs for now until I can crack the earlier levels.
     
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    It's often said the first step is admitting you have a problem ;)
     
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    I have 6 ancients at the moment and luckily got Vaagur at a low level and fully maxed him out, so hero power regen times are reduced by 75% which has really helped me level. Also got a few levels in Libertas and Dogcog too which help, but I found earlier just by accident that levelling Treebeast is giving me enormous DPS and also noticed that when the heroes hit level 1,000 that they get a 10x dps bonus, then a further 4x every 25 levels.

    I am looking forward to the next update which will hopefully allow us to use the forge cores to upgrade the relics too :)
     
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    Should have avoided this! Am late for the pub with the lads because I wanted to maximise my idle time, blow all cool downs and be at max dps one level before a boss I couldn't kill.

    I am on level 109 on my first time around. Not sure when to ascend. Enjoying it though. Maybe a little too much.
     
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    Been playing this also,
    Here is a quick guide for new players that i read when i began playing:

    Welcome to ClickerHeroes!
    If you're reading this, you've probably already taken a step into the game and into your first world. You've bought your first heroes, clicked through a few zones, maybe even gotten to the point of beating Omeet at Zone 100 and gotten your first Hero Soul! Maybe you've ascended and bought some random ancients and you're eager to figure out what they do. Maybe you don't satisfy any of the above and I'm a terrible guesser, and you've already stopped reading. Sorry ._.

    In case you're still reading and brand new to the game, welcome! We'll start with some basic terminology:

    • DPS - Damage Per Second. The number you see in the top left is the amount of damage that your heroes (aside from Cid) are doing constantly. As you level your heroes and buy their upgrades, that number will consistently go up.
    • Click Damage - The damage you do for a single click, every time you click. This can be raised by upgrading Cid or through various upgrades that different heroes will offer.
    • Hero(es) - These are your first companions in this strange new world. The first hero, Cid, will raise your Click Damage as you raise her level. The other heroes will grant you constant DPS instead of Click Damage, which will stay consistent whether you click or not.
    • Levels - Levels will refer to Hero Levels, which are simply the levels that your heroes are at. Levels will be marked with L during the guide, such as noting a Level 1000 hero as L1000.
    • Zones - Zones are the areas that you traverse as you go through the game. You can see the Zone that you are in by the name of the Zone on the top right of the screen and the list of zones that you can travel to.
    • Ascensions - An Ascension is a "soft reset." You will be granted a Hero Soul for every 2000 levels you obtain through your heroes, in addition to any souls you may obtain from Primal Bosses.
    • Hero Souls - Hero Souls are the permanent currency in the game. They help you progress forward and can be banked (saved) for +10% DPS and Click Damage per Hero Soul, or spent on ancients.
    • Ancients - Ancients are permanent heroes that last through Ascensions. Each Ancient is unique and will grant a passive boost towards your game.
    • Reroll - When you go to purchase an Ancient, you are given a choice between four random ancients at any time. You can reroll for another set of 4 random ancients, at a price of some number of hero souls.
    • Respec - If you are unsatisfied with your current Ancients, you can respec all your ancients and surrender them for a refund of 75% of all hero souls you've spent on ancients.
    • Primal Bosses - After Zone 100, each Boss has a 25% chance to be a Primal Boss. These Primal Bosses will emit a purple aura and grant you a certain number of Hero Souls if you defeat them. Their health does not change due to their status as a Primal Boss.
    Now, with terminology out of the way, onto the game.

    When you load your first world, click your way past the first few monsters, upgrading Cid to increase your Click Damage or Treebeast to obtain some DPS. As you progress through higher zones, you will find tougher monsters, but each monster will grant more gold for defeating them. When you start, just go through the zones, leveling up your heroes and buying more heroes as they become available. In general, the most efficient way to obtain heroes is to level up each hero to Level 10 and buying their first upgrade before buying the next hero.

    Eventually, you'll get to a point where you can't progress any further. Most likely, this will be after you've bought Frostleaf and are somewhere between Zone 130-140. You might be balking at Dread Knight's steep price, along with the crazy health that the boss of Zone 140 seems to have, but don't worry. That's a common problem that everyone in the game encounters. By this time, you've probably noticed that a bar popped up telling you that you can obtain a certain number of hero souls by ascending. If you level your heroes, you can obtain 1 Hero Soul per 2000 Levels you've granted to your heroes, which is going to be the source of most of your hero souls early game. What you will want to do is to level your heroes around 10-14k levels. This can be checked in the Statistics tab (the third tab), next to Total Hero Levels. Once you have that around 5-7 Hero Souls from Hero Levels, go ahead and click ASCENSION, the final upgrade of Amenhotep to soft reset your game with some hero souls! And now, the real game starts to take place.

    (TL;DR - Level heroes, buy upgrades, get 5-7 hero souls from hero levels, ascend)

    Now that you have a few hero souls, you can start looking at the Ancients tab, which will have appeared as the fourth tab. Before you spend any hero souls on ancients, decide whether you want to play with an active or an idle playstyle.

    • Active Play - You will be clicking consistently, perhaps using an auto-clicker to click for you. Expect to have the game open for hours per day, spending your time on the game consistently.
    • Idle Play - You can leave the game open or closed, the game will still progress on. Clicking won't help you and it will actually reduce your DPS. Don't expect to get much of your DPS from clicking outside of leveling and upgrading your heroes and ancients.
    Active Play - Consistently Clicking Constantly

    Now that you've chosen the Active Play, be prepared for the clicks. You'll want to open your Ancients tab and try to find Juggernaut, which will be your main ancient for the rest of the game. Juggernaut grants an additive DPS bonus of +0.01% per click, as long as you click constantly. Not clicking for 10 seconds will cause Juggernaut's stacking bonus to start decreasing at a rate of 5% per second. As long as you can click consistently and constantly, Juggernaut will be incredibly useful for an active player.

    Main Ancients:

    • Juggernaut (Additive, stacking, DPS bonus for constant clicking)
    • Fragsworth (+20% Click Damage)
    • Bhaal (+15% Critical Damage)
    Idle Play - Earning gold, even while you sleep

    The idle play is best suited for those who aren't willing to put hours into clicking or dedicating themselves to an auto-clicker. The idle play runs off of Siyalatas and Libertas, two Idle ancients that will provide a boost to your DPS and Gold while you're in an idle state, having not clicked for 60 seconds. This means that it will be the most beneficial for you to not click and just idle away.

    Main Ancients:

    • Siyalatas (+25% Idle DPS)
    • Libertas (+25% Idle Gold)
    Once you've chosen between the Active or Idle play, you'll want to obtain the main ancients for the play you're going after. Obtain either Juggernaut for Active or Siyalatas for Idle on your first run with your first 5-10 Hero Souls, rerolling as necessary to find the Ancient you want. After you've gotten your first Ancient, save up the rest of your hero souls and go through the second run of the game. It should go by faster, now that you have your Ancient and an extra +10% DPS and Click Damage boost per Hero Soul that you have banked (not spent). Once you get back to Z130-140, go ahead and ascend again with another 5-10 Hero Souls and try to get another main ancient for your playstyle. It should get consistently easier and faster as you ascend more, obtaining more hero souls.

    Once you have all the main ancients for your playstyle, you'll want to level your ancients up, but never spend all of your hero souls. It's important to keep a bank of hero souls that you don't spend, due to the +10% DPS boost that each unspent hero soul provides. It's recommended to use a calculator to do this for you if you don't want to figure out all the math yourself.

    (TL;DR - Obtain the Main Ancients for your playstyle, but don't spend all your hero souls. Keep going to Z130-140 and then ascend for a quick 5-10 Hero Souls. Level up your Ancients as necessary.)

    Gold Ancients - Mo' Money, No Problems

    Once you have the Main Ancients for your build leveled up to Level 10 or so, you have a decent number of banked hero souls (150-300 recommended), and you're able to get past Z140 and get consistent runs of ~10 hero souls/1-2 hours, it's time to get some more ancients. These ancients are useful regardless of whether you're going Active or Idle, as they increase the amount of gold you obtain, which is useful for all players.

    For these ancients, pick them up one at a time, and level them under your Main Ancients. These ancients are here to help your Main Ancients, not to outshine them. Don't spend all your hero souls on them.

    • Mammon (+5% Gold)
    • Dora (+20% More Treasure Chests)
    • Mimzee (+50% More Gold from Treasure Chests)
    How to get past Z140/200: By now, you've probably realized that Dread Knight requires an exorbitant amount of gold, while Frostleaf just doesn't provide enough DPS to get past the bosses in Z140+. In order to get past those zones, you'll need to make use of the hero multipliers. Beginning at L200, every hero gets a x4 DPS boost every 25 levels and x10 DPS boost every 1000 levels. In the beginning, this is rather useless as there's no real use for it. However, by leveling your first cost-efficient heroes (Treebeast, Ivan, Brittany, Samurai, and Forest Seer) to L1000 and above, you'll eventually be able to break past the Z140 barrier and move on.

    Hero Soul Ancients - Exponentiation to the Max

    Once you can consistently reach Z200-300 within an hour, gotten your gold and main ancients leveled, and are now getting more of your hero souls from primal bosses than hero levels, you should obtain these Hero Soul Ancients to boost the number of hero souls you obtain from primal bosses. After obtaining these two ancients and leveling them up, you should see the number of hero souls you get per run start to skyrocket exponentially.

    • Atman (+1% Primal Boss Chance)
    • Solomon (+5% Hero Souls from Primal Bosses)
    How to manage Gilds: By the time that you've gotten around to beating Zone 200-300, you should be spending almost all of your gold on the early cost-efficient heroes after getting all the upgrades from all the rest of the heroes up to Frostleaf. In order to keep progressing, you should start making use of gilds. Regilding a hero costs 2 hero souls and will remove a gild from a hero and re-assign it to another random hero. I would recommend using this calculatorto figure out how to assign gilds based on cost-DPS efficiency or this list of heroes by cost-efficiency. Generally, you're going to want to spend a few hero souls between every ascension (10-20 at most) to regild into the beginning five cost-efficient heroes (Treebeast, Ivan, Brittany, Samurai, and Forest Seer).

    Supplemental Ancients - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

    These ancients aren't absolutely necessary, but they'll help to speed up the game, whether by increasing your DPS, gold, or just pure speed. Pick these up once you can easily obtain the hero souls necessary to pick these up. (Recommended zone 500-700)

    • Argaiv (+2% Gilded Bonus)
    • Kumawakamaru (-1 Monsters to Progress to Next Zone)
    • Fortuna (+0.25% Chance of x10 Gold)
    • Dogcog (-2% Hero Cost)
    Gilds, part two: Getting into Z500-700, it's a good idea to start regilding again, to focus all of your gilds into one hero. Most players recommend using Samurai, who is the most cost-efficient hero in the early-game. So same as last time, start regilding into Samurai, spending however many hero souls you feel comfortable using, as long as you don't deplete your entire soul bank. Just make sure that you can re-obtain any souls that you spend on gilds within a single run easily.

    Other Ancients

    If you've followed everything in the guide, leveled up your ancients consistently, kept a decent-sized bank of unspent souls, and making smart decisions during your playthrough, you're probably well on your way towards mid-game! Here are some other ancients which you might consider picking up, to supplement your other ancients further.

    • Iris (+1 Starting Zone after Ascension) - Iris will help reduce the time necessary to get back to earning hero souls, decreasing your time spent wasting time on the lower levels. Most players recommend leveling Iris 300 levels below Solomon (Solomon - 300 = Iris).
    • Morgulis (+11% DPS per Hero Soul) - Morgulis is just a dump for your unused hero souls. Each soul invested in Morgulis provides an extra +1% DPS, but cannot be spent on another ancient. Most players recommend leveling Morgulis equal to the square of Siyalatas's level (Siyalatas * Siyalatas = Morgulis).
    • Vaagur (-5% skill cooldown) - Reduces the cooldown time for your skills. Self-explanatory. Obtain and max if you use skills often, don't if you don't.
    • Chronos (+5s Boss Timer) - Increases the timer for each boss level.
    • Bubos (-2% Boss Health) - Decreases health of bosses.
    • Khrysos (Grants Gold on Ascension) - Gives a certain amount of gold after ascending.
    • Pluto (+30% Golden Clicks Gold) - Will grant extra gold while using Golden Clicks skill.
    • Thusia (+100% Treasure Chest Life when Golden Clicks is active) - When using Golden Clicks, Thusia will increase the life of Treasure Chests so that you can obtain more gold through Golden Clicks. Useful for end-game, not in early-game.
    This should cover all the Ancients, aside from the 8 Skill Ancients, which prolong the duration of your skills and are rather self-explanatory.

    And that concludes my attempt at a guide for new players (as of v0.17b). Again, this isn't meant to be a comprehensive rigid guideline on how to play the game, but a general suggestion to set up a basic foundation to get through the early-game. Feel free to include criticism, feedback, opinions, and corrections below.
     
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    Patch today now added a "Clan" feature,

    i did goto set it up but it requires 50 Gems to be created and im a few short so if anybody has 50 spare and sets up a clan please post the details :D

    p.s cant wait to play this in 4k on mt 980ti :clap:
     
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    Been waiting for clans to come to Steam. Not quite sure on how they work. Do we need to know people's Highest Zone Ever for boss difficulty or something?

    1400 ish for me.
     
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    Its just a little tab on the top that you create a nickname and you can search or create a clan,
     
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    I've got 38 Rubies at the moment, will try to create an AVF one today.
     
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    The main uses of a clan are the raid boss function and the message board where you can chat with your clan-mates. Raid bosses are a special kind of bosses that will award hero souls to the entire clan.
     
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    AVF clan created for my fellow clicker nerds. :)

    Should find it just by searching "AVF".
     
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    Request sent, note "AVF" is case sensitive :)
     
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    Request sent :)
     
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    Request sent also.
     
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    Heh so I was bored this afternoon and decided to check this out, a decision I regret having done.....
    I think I first started it up at about 3pm and am still on it......

    This should be banned, I mean there isn't anything actually deep or complex about it, rather simple on the whole but my god is it addictive :eek::zonked:

    I had a little search for AVF clan but it's full!
     
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    I just checked the clan and we have 10 members, if that is the limit its a real let down by ClickerHeroes. :nono:
     
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    We can only have ten?! That's crap.

    @BontaKun3000 I am hoping to get the last few achievements in the next few days so once I do I will drop out and you can have my place in the clan.
     
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    Confirmed

    The main uses of a clan are the raid boss function and the message board where you can chat with your clan-mates. Raid bosses are a special kind of bosses that will award hero souls to the entire clan. You can get into a clan either by joining someone else's or making one yourself for 50 rubies. When you decide to join one you can either apply for a specific one (for example: the one your friend made) or join a random clan (this option tries to find a clan with members that are near your HZE (Highest Zone Ever)). Your application will have to be approved by the clan master. The default clan master is the one who made the clan but the leader can transfer it to other players in the clan. There can only be up to 10 people per clan. Do note that you can only join or make a clan after level 50. (Not sure about ascensions need confirmation.)

    thats really poo... I hope they increase this number asap!!
     
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    So what should I save my rubies for?

    Don't think I need the cool down and gold one, nor the 2x mulitplier, so figure it's either the gilded one or hero souls one.
     
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    i save mine for ascension
    *But i have got x2 dmg already*
     
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    i save mine for ascension,
     
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    You should buy the 2x multiplier as early as possible. Early game I spent most of my rubies on random gilds. Late game you can reassign gilds but early on just accept whatever heroes get gilded. From about level 1400 onwards I started buying ascensions.
     
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    So how do I stop playing this?

    I mean I know I can idle in the background and do something else but I'm back at it like every 5 mins......
     
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    It may need everyone on this next raid boss, only 67 billion, 108 million health. :eek:
     
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    I haven't been on for a while but will try to get on to knock some health off him. :)
     
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    I put in a clan request yesterday. Struggling with my new addiction :eek:

    Inching through the early 200s currently. How many new bosses do people beat per ascension at this stage?
     
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    Not many new bosses, just farming primals at the moment, I use an idle build which pretty much gets me around 100k primals every hour or so, which helps with the damage against the raid bosses.
     
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    Thanks - will take a look at those.

    Just had ago at the clan raid - I think there must be a bug as none of his health numbers changed :blush:
     

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