Choosing a right TV for my needs - please help

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  1. eclipse05

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    Hi guys!

    I need an advice from you... About 10 years ago I was very into TV's, PS3 etc. I was on forums helping many people with my knowledge but not any more... kids, work, being busy all the time and I lost track a lot what's what. I know my needs but TV market is changing so quickly so if you will be so kind to help me choosing which model to look for I would be pleased :)

    Currently I have Sony KDL40-Z5500 - awesome TV but I need 4k :thumbsup:

    - needs to be between 50-55"
    - HDMI 2.0 to support [email protected]
    - I want tv to reproduce black well. I know OLED isn't here yet but spot dimming etc. would help. Anyway I can't stand when black is grey :D
    - TV will be used for movies, tv series and playing games on connected NVIDIA ShieldTV 2017.
    - And probably the WORST these days - stand that can turn. If it can't turn that would be a deal breaker for me as my living room is designed quite odd and couple times a day it is being turned left/right. VESA mount is not a case as a wall is terrible and can't hold even a damn picture :rotfl:
    - Price range up to €1500

    Brand doesn't make much of a different nor OS as it will be running mostly from ShieldTV anyway.
    Sound... nice to have some but i have there a Sony BDV-E2100 Speakers and Wireless Sennheiser headphones.

    And I like little bezels ;) My Z5500 looks like from different era now although picture is still kind of nice.


    If you have any ideas please let me know. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    The latest Sony Z series is a cracking TV but starts at 65" and €3000.

    All 4K TVs now are HDMI 2.0 on at least a couple of ports.

    Turning stands are rare, but third party tabletop stands using the VESA mount are available so I wouldn't consider that a deal breaker particularly.

    The XE90 is a popular choice at around 1500.
     
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    Do you have a link to that tabletop?
    I'll look at XE90 :)
     
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    Try your favourite shop, many of the big ones stock them as well as specialist stand companies. I can't recommend anything in particular but for example Argos offer this:
    Buy Sonorous Table Top TV Stand - Black and Silver at Argos.co.uk - Your Online Shop for TV stands, TV stands and wall brackets, Televisions and accessories, Technology.

    Although I suspect on an item like that Argos are probably massively overpriced for the quality so that's just a link to prove they're easily available. I'd definitely look at the alternatives.


    I wouldn't worry too much about 4K at this sort of size unless you sit really close, most of the benefit will be coming from other aspects like the larger size, HDCP 2.2 & HEVC support enabling higher bitrate streams/discs, the beginnings of HDR support and so on.

    If you're mainly watching Full HD or lower content then it might be worth sticking with your current TV for another couple of years until OLED and better HDR support comes along.
     
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    If you waited to buy when TVs were at their cheapest and could save a little money you won't be far off being able to buy LGs OLEDs in spring...discounts are rife then.
     
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    Thanks for the link. I didn't see such a stand before. Argos is probably overpriced, but will try to find something similar somewhere else.
    Regarding the content in 4K I can see a difference and I know not everyone can. I am using 32" monitor for my PC that is 4K and 1080p looks like a trash :D

    NVIDIA ShieldTV can decode HEVC pretty well even in 4K and I have a Netflix subscription for 4K that I can't take an advantage in my livingroom.

    OLED is very tempting but I don't really want to wait till spring - I know that would have an economic sense but would love to welcome new TV for a Xmas :D
     
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    Of course, but that's a far bigger screen than the TV you're considering when you take viewing distance into account. You'd need to view TV just 50% further away than from your monitor for a 48" screen to show the same sort of effects.

    If you sit 200% further away (~2.5m) then you'd be looking at a 100" screen to show that same distinction.

    Plus computer content is much more pristine and sharp than the recorded content that makes up the majority of TV viewing, not to mention much more dependant on those small details like text.

    In short, despite sharing the same marketing the two situations are very different.
     
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    LG B7 OLED is on Amazon germany for €1799 thats not too far off your €1500 price point if you save up a little more and Amazon say they will deliver to your region (section under Auf Lager).

    If your in Ireland the B7 typically sells for over €2300 so thats quite a saving assuming it works out.
     
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    Thanks for that. Do you know what's a different between B7D and B7V? V is available in Ireland.
     
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    Regional differences in firmware/tuner. D obviously stands for Deutschland whilst V is the variant also sold in the UK. No Idea what the v stands for.

    Its going to be near impossible to find out what limitations there will be, if any using the D version. Your best bet is to contact LG about that.
     
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    If price trends are similar to the UK (which I guess they are since many retailers here also sell in ROI) then this TV will only get cheaper and cheaper as time goes on.

    In spring this year people were picking up last years LG B6 for £1500 so expect this years models to be as little of not cheaper by then.

    Keep an eye on: OLED Price Changes

    Also note that usually you will get better service and a longer warranty if you buy from a respected retailer. I don't know anything about DID living outside of Ireland but I do know richer sounds will offer you a 5 year (6 year if you join their VIP club) warranty and you at least know with them you will get better after sales and service.

    Richer Sounds IE
     
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    Thank You Dodgexander for all your help. It is very valuable to me :)

    Prices will go down, that's for sure so probably the best way for now is to wait until BlackFriday that is going to be this month, right? Some retailers are also going crazy with a huge price cuts so that should be the best time to buy.

    Warranty... isn't something that you can get from manufacturer too? Like register and have 5 years of it? I had something like that with my Bravia
     
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    I don't know how it is in ROI but in the UK manufacturers usually offer a year, maybe two and then any retailer that offers 5 years just tops up that warranty cover themselves.

    So if you buy LG they give you a standard 12 month warranty, if you buy it for a retailer that shows they have a 5 year warranty the remaining 4 years afterwards is handled by the retailer, not LG.

    You can buy an extended warranty with LG themselves too: LG Electronics | LG U.K. but when you can buy with a free warranty by the shop I don't see a reason to want to do this unless for whatever reason you decide instead to buy from a shop that doesn't offer that extra warranty for free.

    Certainly you can't get more than the standard warranty for free.
     
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    OK, I will pay attention to the warranty too :)
     

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