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Cheapest way into High Definition TV?

Discussion in 'Televisions' started by Toyotasupra, Mar 30, 2005.

  1. Toyotasupra

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    I'm looking to get a new TV possibly high def but the difference in price I've seen has been huge, especially seeing I would need a new DVD player, sky box (when it becomes available) and there are only a select number of high def films available, however I don't want to buy something now to have to sell it in a years time to upgrade. What the cheapest way into high definition at this time, its all rather confusing :rolleyes:

    Adrian :hiya:
     
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    Either a s/hand projector or one of the new cheap 1280 x 768 lcd screens like the 26" sonix from sainsbury's for £500 !!

    Still need to sort out a source ... eith hd-dvds via a pc or d-vhs via tape ... or a sat unit and a card/cam for the european hd service ...

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    I have just bought myself a 24 inch widescreen CRT monitor with a resolution of 1920x1200 from ebay for under £150. Sitting within about 3 foot of this baby makes HDTV look pretty sweet!
     
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    I'm amazed that sonix tv at Sainsburys is high def! I would like 32" ideally but there dont seem to be any high def 32" screen around. Thanks for replys gives me something else to research.
     
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    has hdmi link but does it have the hdcp that is needed to receive the new Sky hd broadcasts does anyone know?
     
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    All HDMI connections support HDCP.
     
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    There is a 32" version of the sonix ... probably through an online dealer though ..

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    Does anyone know if sky are going to charge extra to recieve HD broadcasts? I wouldnt put it past them.
     
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    Of course they are! Apart from buying a new box (which will also act as a PVR), you will have to pay extra to subscribe to their HDTV channels, like you would have to for any other premium channel packages. They will very likely be seperate from the existing SD channels.

    Sky isn't starting HDTV services and manufacturing HDTV capable boxes out of its own generosity, it expects to charge the most affluent percentage of its viewers more as a result of the service and eventually make a profit from its investment.

    If you want to watch HDTV for a low cost, watch the European Free To Air transmissions, or wait for the BBC's broadcasts. They are far more likely to be free.
     
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    It is expected to be a package comprising of sports/movies/entertainment for an additional £10 a month with perhaps additional content from Disney/Discovery and Euro1080 which may or may not be bundled in.
    As of yet we do not know if this is conditional on having specific channel packages as the SKY+ HD will receive the standard def service.

    I'm afraid if you want free HD from a UK broadcaster you will have to wait for the BBC to get their game together:)
     
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    Of course they will ! Satellite transponders aren't free of charge, you have to rent them, and HD transmissions take 4x as much space as SD.
     
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    sky should beable to get a way with 2x the bandwidth of the current usage as they wont me be usin mpeg2 for hidef
     
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    I also heard they are going to charge about £500 for the HD box too.
     
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    Any figures you have read are just speculation however considering the cost of the few basic HD receivers selling at retail then the £400+ would be within the ballpark for a twin tuner hard drive equipped HD receiver with HDMI and associated "sky spec" requirments.
    The odds are that the STB won't be sold retail for quite a while thus adding some sort of installation fee as well!
     
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    500? at the most i would expect 200 sign up fee and box with a premium sub required. Its all just speculation atm
     
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    Wasn't the Sky+ box originally £400 at launch ?

    If you can afford the display you can afford the box !
     
  17. Toyotasupra

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    Thats what sky will be thinking so it will probably be very expensive for the first 12 months or so? Expensive enough to put me off for a while anyway.
     
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    You can buy an HD Ready display for £450. That would make the box look a bit expensive in comparison
     
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    £300 plus another £50 for installation but it was also a retail product.
    Given the potential miss-selling of the HD product to people who know no better and don't have the right displays I expect it to be sold only direct from SKY.

    Exactly, HD is a premium product and will be for a good number of years.
    The people who buy into it in the first year will have spent a few grand on their displays and audio equipment, there are cheaper displays around now but LCD and Plasma in particular really do not scale down in price/performance very well since the cheaper models tend to be a generation or two behind the big boys products.




    Are you referring to PC/Mac monitors which can be bought for a reasonable figure? If so they are not exactly the first choice either for screen size or asthetics wise to have in the lounge:)
     
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    No, to LCD TV.

    But yes I agree on the point of size - I was thinking of a Dell W1900 LCD TV as one example - though asthetically this looks little different to any other LCD TV

    Though resonable quality 26" LCD TVs that are HD Ready are probably going to be available under £500 anyday, if not already.
     
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    Is it money well spent to buy just "reasonable" quality when you will be using High Def broadcasts and HD pre-recorded material as a source?
    Then again I'm probably talking from an early adoptors viewpoint since for High Def to be mainstream there has to be a wide range of price points and performances although at this time I would not recommend anyone buying "cheap" LCD or Plasma panels for HD since unlike most CRT's an extra grand does buy a definite performance gain especially when the panel is used for SD digital broadcasts which most "lounge" displays will be showing most of the time.
     
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    well my £499 sonix 26" LCD gives stunning results playing back HD movies from a PC, and I am very happy with the SD performance too.

    Of course 26" isn't big enough for most lounges.

    However, if you want big, then many people also seem happy with HD and SD performance of 45/46" DLP RPTV that are fully HD Ready for just £1600.

    There's no reason to spend a fortune on HD. The improvement that HD offers is very clear even on these relatively low cost displays
     
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    Fair enough, I certainly wouldn't dismiss someones personal opinion when it's backed by actual experience of a product. After all if you have made a choice and paid your money and can sit back with a smile that is all that matters:)
     

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