Cheapest 3D PJ with good lens shift?

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  1. philbot

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    Anyone know the cheapest projector with a decent amount of lens shift, preferably 3D, and with the lens off centre rather than central.

    Been looking for a while now, new and 2nd hand and can't seem to find the right combination of lens shift, features and price!

    My first PH was a Panasonic AX100 which cost me £399 new and must have though all projectors worked the same, but now I'm struggling to replace it with anything less than £1500!

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    The cheapest 3D projector with lens shift that I'm aware is either the Epson EH-TW8100 or the Themescene HD83.

    Bother are around £2200.

    If your looking for a second hand unit then theres the JVC DLA X3 or the Epson EH-TW9000. You may find a second hand unit for that kind of money now.

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    My JVC 350 (non HD) has great motorised lens shift, wouldn't be without it (or all motorised controls), if all JVC's follows that they are a premium worth paying for.
     
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    Could not agree more!

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    Yeah I'd love a 350 or 750 but Ideally I'd like 3D as well so I wouldn't need to upgrade after 3 months...

    I'm so annoyed that the Optoma HD25 and Benq 1070 won't fit!!!
     
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    Why won't they fit?
     
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    The JVC 350 is absolutely massive! I was giving an example, I'd imagine the X3 will have the same excellent optical shift.
     
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    If you think the HD350 is large :eek: then wait till you see the X3 :rolleyes: Its about the same length but you can add an extra 33% to the width.

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    If I put the Benq 1070 in my understairs cupboard (which has a window cut out for the beam) it will project an image bigger than my screen because of the zoom. :(

    If I do the same with the Optoma HD25 I cant adjust the image to fit on my screen because of no lens shift. :(

    So either I buy one of these and have it ceiling mounted, which I did't want to do because of noise, light leakage, cables etc or I pay twice as much for something else.

    I don't want to spend £1800 I like prices such as £749 :eek:
     
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    Aye, the light leakage, noise and cables certainly don't justify a £1000 hike ;)

    Can see where you're coming from though.
     
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    I'm not sure if I misread this but an X3 should be well under £2,200 by now. For that amount you would be close to a new X35 (without the 3D guff). ;)

    I guess it's still above budget seeing the last post, but a used X3 should be closer to £1,200 with the newer X30 a little bit more (they were selling for £1,800 towards the end so this should be a guide for any that might be sale on the classifieds ;) ).

    Chances are that due to the large zoom range the JVC would cope with being able to make the image small enough for your screen. They have one of the largest zoom ranges so if a JVC won't fit then nothing else is likely to either.
     
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    I have the HD131x and it is silent as regards to noise. Also I can see very little light leakage.

    Are you worried about light leakage because you want bat cave conditions?
     
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    Yeah, Just realised. Was really talking about the Epson and Themescene at that price point. You are correct on the pricing on the other models. I would also expect this to be a little less to.

    I've had a very busy 2 weeks with moving home! So what my brain see's and what I wrote here seems to have gone a little sideways.:rolleyes:

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    sorry youve lost me. The benq is a problem because it gives you a bigger image ? Sounds like a good story to tell the wife and end up with a much bigger screen size to me :D
     
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    lol - yeah it's a problem because my 84" electric screen is all boxed into the coving.

    Can see myself pulling the trigger on an Epson 3200 and telling myself 3D is over-rated :(
     
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    Have you at least had a demo of 3D on a projector? I had one when the JVC X7 first came out and it gave me an almost migraine type headache, so I've never bothered since. Not only that it saved me £300 by not buying the glasses and emitter for my X35.

    Of course if you try it and like then that might only make things worse. :devil:
     
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    since I saw Avatar 3D at the Odeon I was convinced!
    But if a JVC 350/750 turned up in the classifieds at the right price I might just go for 2D
     
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    Cinema 3D isn't the same: It's passive and home projectors are active. The flickering from the glasses is what gave me the headache not the 3D itself (though Avatar just makes me want to shut my eyes :D).
     
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    3D Active from the different types of 3D technologies do give a different effect and although some of these type may not have worked for you, maybe you should readdress it. I guess the flicker was down the the slower shutter speed and nothing else. DLP seems to offer the least flicker effect with 3D whilst JVC in the early days offered the slowest. If the rooms was a little lighter than it should have been then this is how you see the flicker.

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    The room was pitch black (a proper bat cave so to speak), plus I can't watch DLP anyway due to rainbow also giving me a headache, so I don't think it's worth pursuing. I didn't particularly notice the flicker, but my sub conscious must have as I imagine that's what triggered the headaches.

    However, my main issue is that most of the 3D films aren't films I'd chose to watch, so I'd just be getting them in order to 'analyse' the 3D/image quality. Spending £300 to get the emitter and glasses for my X35 would be a waste of my money I reckon...
     
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    That's a far comment!

    It's a shame that you cannot watch the DLP's as they do tend to offer the cleanest 3D on the market.

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