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Cheap upgrade for ancient PC

Discussion in 'Desktop & Laptop Computers Forum' started by phenom2003, Sep 7, 2003.

  1. phenom2003

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    I have an old pentium 200mhz pc which I wish to upgrade. What shall I be upgrading first? Here are the specs of the machine

    Pentium motherboard
    Pentium 200mhz processer
    128mb RAM
    4GB hard disk
    16bit 2 channel sound card
    3DFX Voodoo 2 card (not currently working due to not having drivers)
    Bog standard ATX case

    Now I know I will have replace to processer, but to replace the processer I will need to change the motherboard, but to change the motherboard will require me buying new RAM.

    I have set a budget of about £350.

    What are the best value for money proccesers and motherboards with an 8x AGP slot and 800mhz fsb? I would also like to have a graphics card in the price (not on the motherboard), and six-channel sound (on motherboard or sound card). I would probably overclock the processer so a 2.4-2.8 should do me fine. I will be using it mainly for surfing the web, playing the odd game and downloading off Kazaa (on to another hard drive on another pc) So I will also need a couple of NICs

    Can anybody help me out here?

    edit: I alredy have the software I need from another pc.

    Thanks,
    Richard :hiya:
     
  2. Kramer

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    Why not consider an AMD system?

    £85 for mainboard here. Excellent on-board 6 channel sound (with optical SPDIF), LAN etc...

    £92 for 2x 256mb ram here.

    Pick up an XP1700+ (DLT3C stepping) for £45 & you've a system that will run happily @ 2.3/2.4 gHz all day long with a FSB (dual DDR) of > 220 :eek:

    That leaves £128 from your budget, more than enough for an excellent 128mb graphics card here.

    :)
     
  3. phenom2003

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    Kramer thanks for that, and will consider it, but if possible I would want a pentium system with about a 3ghz speed after overclocking, also could anyone recommend a hard drive around the £60 mark?

    Thanks,
    Richard
     
  4. Kramer

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    That combination I recommended will better a P4 @ 3.0gHz :eek:

    ;)
     
  5. nathan_silly

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    If you really wanna keep that system- consider adding a Promise IDE controller for about £20 and a new hard disc. I did the same for a similar specced PC (P200 MMX, 82MB RAM, 4GB Quantum; added a Promise & 60GB IDE 7200) huge improvement on startup & application load up.

    Although I personally just would replace motherboard, memory, CPU, video card, and hard disc. Basically a new PC.

    I woudn't buy a AMD.
     
  6. Garrett

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    Nothing wrong with AMD processors which Rmag proved, they are just as good as Intel (before in a similar thread).
     
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    Hi

    I am in a similar boat, upgrade a 500MHz Pentium 3 or buy a new system. My problem is that I have a 200 Watt PSU in there atm so would I need to upgrade this if I went ther AMD way??

    Also, which is a better motherboard Asus A7N8X deluxe or the Abit NF7-S...?

    Apologies for the minor thread hijack.

    BTW i'm not at all techie but willing to learn... :D
     
  8. nathan_silly

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    You mean "Nothing wrong with AMD processors" IMO.

    I wouldn't touch them with a bargebole. Hey if you like your PC rebooting for no apparent reason, great! IMO!:D
     
  9. Kramer

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    Agreed, but some seem to have phobias with regard to anything "AMD".


    NF7-S Rev. 2.0 - awesome performer.
     
  10. Kramer

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    User ineptitude :p
     
  11. Garrett

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    Western Digital 80Gb 7200 rpm and 8md cache but it comes to just over £70 from where Kramer recommends.
    I have been running one on a AMD setup for near on 2 years and it has been the most stable setup I have ever had.
     
  12. Garrett

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    And I take it you also mean IMO





    I would let it lay Nathan I’m sure we both do not want to go down that line again where the thread had to be closed.
     
  13. nathan_silly

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    I've got 3 PC's here of varying ages and speeds,1 of which is an Intel,and the others are AMD's,and being honest the AMD's just don't crash....no crashes at all so far(tempting fate I know),and the Intel does occasionally mainly due to an old OS.
     
  15. lynx

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    I'm not sure why you think you require that level of proccesing to
    , however if it's of interest Maplin have some bundles on offer at the moment... http://www.maplin.co.uk/Products/Mo...tID=030907160209448&moduleno=-559&modulelist=
     
  16. nathan_silly

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    If you're just doing "using it mainly for surfing the web, playing the odd game and downloading off Kazaa " - why not consider a laptop?

    I only use my laptop for browsing, downloading & other web stuff. I rarely use my desktop PC anymore. Just burn the occasional CD and that's about it.
     
  17. Garrett

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    I really was referring to that even though the other was in my quote which I saw. ;)
     
  18. james.miller

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    some people need to wise up. there nothing wrong with amd.
     
  19. Gary Lightfoot

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    Rebooting for no reason is normaly a Windows XP thing, and nothing to do with the processor.

    I've had AMDs since a 233, and have never had any shut down issues with them. :)

    I'm currently running an AMD HTPC - my 3rd problem free HTPC in over 3 years, and I'm on my 4th AMD desktop machine which is networked to another AMD machine as well as the HTPC...

    Gary.
     
  20. GagHalfrunt

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    First of all I think you're being over-optimistic to get a 3Ghz for that price.

    You better off going a bit slower and spending any extra cash on a decent Graphics Card or whatever.

    There is more to a PC than just Mhz you know. Last week I virus cleaned someone's PC up and it's the slowest 2Ghz I've ever used. My 1.2Ghz is much faster. Fast memory, hard disc speed, graphics card etc. play just as much of a part.

    And don't knock AMD. I think with an NForce board things will be cool. My AMD is rock-solid and tbh the worst thing in it is the VIA motherboard.
     
  21. onewingedangel

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    £150 for a 2.4ghz p4 w/800mhz FSB, can be overclocked to 3Ghz with the stock cooler if paired with a suitable motherboard.
     
  22. Orbitalzone

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    I've found the same thing... a poorly made 2Ghz PC may not be much better than a well setup 1ghz system in many respects.

    Take the low cost current offering from Packard Bell or Emachines.. sure they pack a lot into the price but they sure don't perform like you might expect.... Obviously it varies somewhat.

    I think the motherboard is one of the things that gets overlooked the most... a decent well made motherboard makes the rest run so much better..... the motherboard chipset is probably more important a selection than the brand of processor.... IMO.
     
  23. GagHalfrunt

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    Heh

    It was a Packard Bell (or known as "Crappard Bell" to us in the industry) which performed like a sub 1Ghz PC.
     
  24. MikeTV

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    I don't wish to be provocative, but in my experience, Windows XP is the most stable O/S I have ever used. The only times I have experienced PC's spontaneously rebooting, the cause was always due to hardware issues (memory/disk failures, PCI card issues, or device conflicts).
     
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    Alright, trying to get back on topic, I am going to go the AMD route as the performance/£ ratio seems the best, I was thinking on the following system.

    AMD Athlon XP 2500+ barton w/ 333mhz fsb-£69.15
    Ebuyer value 512MB ram (400mhz)-£64.56
    60GB hard drive w/ 8mb cache-£42.70
    Asus A7N8X SKT A (NForce 2) motherboard-£68.32
    Tyan Tachyan Radeon 9600 pro 128mb-117.49
    Case to be decided (£20-40 inc PSU any recomendations)
    Lite-on clone cd-rw (52x read, 52x write, 32x rewrite)-£25
    CTX Keyboard & Mouse Desktop Set (wireless, optical mouse and keyboard)-£22.04

    All of these are from ebuyer (except the hard drive from redstar.co.uk and cd rewriter from blankdiscshop.co.uk)

    I will be buying a new monitor and more memory later on so reccomendations for these would be much appreciated
     

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