hello! my first /real/ post on this forum, hope you guys can help me out! I'm in need of a dirt cheap (probably second hand from ebay?) firewire miniDV camera, I'm basically after the best combination of low end picture quality and price! sound is unimportant for this application. I know that compared to something like a DSR-570, or even XLS the picture quality will suck, but I need something that will get me half descent pictures on a pal TV ( more likely projector for now...) when burnt to DVD and wont break the bank if its lost, dropped or blown up ( all of which are disturbingly likely!!) I'd like to get some night shots with it, I've heared that sony models are better at this ( talking low -budget cameras here, I know it will suck regardless, but whatever I can get) what models would you chaps recommend for this purpose, I /could/ budget £400 but I'd much prefer £200 or so ( at second hand prices if its worthwhile?) I've had a quick trawl around but I'm not really much wiser, your opinions are highly appreciated!