Cheap freeview box

supersonic87

Standard Member
Just to let Makro customers know, that starting wednesday, they will be selling the Netgem freeview box and keyboard for just £49.99!!!:eek:

Rich
 

woody67

Active Member
I recently read that there were some problems with some of the cheaper boxes, as the number of freeview channels have been increased and some of the cheaper boxes have not got the memory to store them, and so drop some channels.

I don't know if this is one of them though, but its worth checking
 

ajp558

Active Member
No, the Netgem box is not one of the boxes with a problem caused by a limit on the number of channels it can store. It might only be £49.99+VAT but its certainly no cheap freeview box. I bought one for £130 last year & have just bought the BT version as that is currently also on sale. The BT version has CLI to display details of incoming telephone calls in a little box on the TV screen, so works well in our lounge.
 

MartinImber

Active Member
The Netgem IPlayer is one of the better boxes - it is made for projector owners!
 

zanc

Active Member
I've just bought the BT version, and the EPG s is fast. However, there appear to be a few problems.

* Looking through the setup screens its says I can set the box to Component out, I am not sure where the component signals come out of the box. They don't hi-jack the SCART because the colours stays the same when in component mode, and I don't know where else to find video outputs.

* Widescreen switching on Pin 8 does not seem to exist, or its just incompatible with all the other digiboxes that I've tried.

* I rang up BT support, and they told me the Wireless adapters do not work, so its just as well I held back before ordering.

If anyone has any other experiences please let me know. What worries me now is that the BT software version will fall out of step with the actual Netgem box. The makro version would appear to be a better bet.

Rob
 
hmmm... I've ordered teh BT version without really knowing much..

can someone explain the difference between teh BT version and the original Netgem?

Does teh Netgem version have Caller ID dispalyed on the screen?

Any info appreciated as I may have to send it back!
 

ajp558

Active Member
"I rang up BT support, and they told me the Wireless adapters do not work, so its just as well I held back before ordering."

Well I'm glad BT haven't told my BT i-player box that as its working perfectly with a Belkin F5D6050 wireless usb adapter connecting to my home LAN to share broadband, streaming audio, mp3s etc, etc!

I have a Netgem & a BT version & both are running beta release software 4.4.2. Netgem have done a great job in keeping them both in step in terms of core software functionality.

The BT box is used in the lounge where we like the CLI display when the phone rings - save the Mrs asking me to get up & walk over to our cordless phone to check!

The Netgem box is upstairs.

Both are connected to LAN via wireless usb to Linksys WAG54G router.

Personally I don't think you can go far wrong with either at current bargain prices & with latest beta s/w.

The jury is still out on access to TUTV (as with most if not all current freeview boxes) until the access technology is confirmed, cards & CAMs available, etc.

In the meantime my preference is that the BT's CLI is more use to me than a potentially expensive CAM upgrade to the Netgem to get it working with TUTV. Ultimately both Netgem & BT boxes could work with TUTV but no-one knows for sure.

AJP
 
thanks AJP for clarifying that... nothing betterthan first hand experience.
...am expecting delivery of my BT box anyday now so hopfully it will stay in place and not returned as I intially feard.
 

zanc

Active Member
Silly me. I went out and bought a Belkin Wireless USB adapter, because it was one of the adapters the BT freeview box recommended, and previous posts suggested that the wireless option worked. I then updated the software for the netgen (BT version) and suprise the Belkin is no longer a recommended device and is not recognised by the box.

Does anyone know if there is to be a software upgrade to reintroduce compatability.
 
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Wingnut

Guest
Bought one from Makro today to replace my Nokia Mediamaster (which strangely lost channel 5 after Top-Up TV started testing). It's a great box, much better than the Nokia in almost all areas - and I got channel 5 back.

Incedentally, there was about 50 left in the Eccles (Manchester) store today (Tuesday 23rd) , so you still have time to pick up a bargain.

Wingnut
 
Got my BT box, very please with it, seems excellent value and the Caller ID is a nice (and useful) touch.

I would like to hook it up to my WiFi Lan (through a Belkin 54g Router) can anyone suggest a suitable USB adapter and what can I expect to pay for it?
It seems tha the Belkin USB adapter is no longer supported with the latest software update.
 

ajp558

Active Member
Belkin F5D6050 usb wi-fi adapter works with both Netgem & BT i-players with 4.4.2 software. The best place I could find for one was Ebuyer, but I ordered a pair from Easyetrader for about the same as Ebuyer sell their twin pack.

NB The version of 4.4.2 for the BT was temporarily "pulled" but will be available soon. If you already have the update then your box should wokr well with the Belkin. Sadly none of the "newer" usb wi-fi adapters are supported by either netgem or BT boxes.

AJP558
 

AOD

Active Member
Just wanted to add that I picked up one of these from my nearest Makro store for the price mentioned at the top of the thread (bear in mind this is an ex VAT price), but even so, what a saving!

I have to say I'm very impressed with the box and can't wait until I get hold of a suitable Ethernet adaptor and get it hooked up to our Broadband connection.

The update via dial-up for the firmware went without a hitch and it is now running 4.4.2.

Now all I have to do is sell our Sky digibox before the missus gets back from her business trip. :smashin:
 

Drew C

Active Member
Sorry for not being up on these things, but what benefit do you get by connecting a freeview box to broadband?
 

AOD

Active Member
Well, at the most basic level, you can send and receive proper email on your TV screen using the keyboard (POP3 and all that).

You can also stream/play other content from machines on your home network such as MP3 and DivX files.

In addition, I believe you can also update the firmware by downloading the latest version via broadband. If you have to do it via dial-up not only do you pay (for a local call), but it takes around 20mins. Broadband should be a good deal faster.

This box has some really nice touches, such as displaying the channel logos (making it really easy to identify a particular channel) and also allowing you to check the "Now & Next" information for a different channel to the one you're watching.

If you want the full lowdown, take a look at the Netgem forums which can be found here.
 
I've just checked my BT and after dowloading the software, it now runs on the 4.3.1 verson.... and the belkin USB wifi adapter is not listed as a compatible device.

I ordered the belkin adaptor from ebuyer 2 days ago! :(
 
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Wingnut

Guest
Originally posted by Drew C
Sorry for not being up on these things, but what benefit do you get by connecting a freeview box to broadband?

Ordinarily, there would be no benefit in connecting a freeview box to broadband. However, the Netgem iPlayer (or the BT varient) have a built-in web browser and email facility.

Wingnut
 

AOD

Active Member
Doh!

Quite right sir, I neglected to mention the built in web browser.

Out of interest, anybody know if it works with AV Forums?? :)
 

Dustybin

Standard Member
Originally posted by AOD
Doh!

Quite right sir, I neglected to mention the built in web browser.

Out of interest, anybody know if it works with AV Forums?? :)


Sure does using my one now, works with pretty much every site I use :D
 

Dustybin

Standard Member
Originally posted by AOD
Doh!

Quite right sir, I neglected to mention the built in web browser.

Out of interest, anybody know if it works with AV Forums?? :)


Sure does using my one now, works with pretty much every site I use :D
 

ajp558

Active Member
I agree, the web browser is useful for picking up my email from Pipex & a quick check on forums such as this for bargains. I can do all that in the time it takes my PC just to boot up.

The Netgem just takes a second to start up & access the forums via broadband with wi-fi. A nice advantage over my 2 PCs.

AJP558.
 
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Wingnut

Guest
Originally posted by ajp558
I agree, the web browser is useful for picking up my email from Pipex & a quick check on forums such as this for bargains. I can do all that in the time it takes my PC just to boot up.

The Netgem just takes a second to start up & access the forums via broadband with wi-fi. A nice advantage over my 2 PCs.

AJP558.

Just out of interest which USB Wi-Fi card are you using with the iPlayer?

Wingnut
 

ajp558

Active Member
Hi Wingnut,
I use the Belkin F5D6050 usb Wi-Fi adapter. I bought a 2-pack as I have 1 Netgem & 1 BT version box. Both boxes run 4.4.2 software.

The Belkin 2 pack is £37.85 plus VAT & delivery from Ebuyer:

http://***********/yu2ez

Ebuyer also sell the single adapter fro £20.99 plus VAT & del.

Sadly the Netgem only supports a limited range of older 802.11b adapters. Linux drivers are hard to come by for the newer ones.

AJP558
 

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