Having just bought a Panny E50 I am on the look out for some cheap -r and Ram discs. This is a real pain as I have a +R drive for my P.C that I can get high quality media in abundance for around £1.15 per disc. I wanted a one format solution but that has not been possible. I have done a search for previous posts and have not really found anything new : http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/ http://www.digitalpromo.co.uk/ http://www.lynxdv.com/ I use the first two often. The best prices I have found are at http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk for Mirror Unbranded 4.7GB single sided DVD-RAM disc (not in cartridge) £2.54 + Vat and RITEK UNBRANDED 1X DVD-R in tubs of 25 £21.26 + Vat. My question is. Where is all the cheap DVD -r I have been hearing about ? It does not seem to be any cheaper than +R. Anyone know where there is any good stuff in stock cheaper than this that works well in the Panny recorders ?