Sky + is expensive but worth every penny it has not missed a beat since i bought it in January. The wonderful guys at sky installation were not able to access my old dish when installing sky + (because of new health and safety rules!) so i now have a spare dish and digibox pointing at Astra (their loss not mine) Apart from giving it to you what can i do with the kit? can i get free channels from europe? I am just using it for the usual free channels at the moment with a "free to air card" but would like to be more adventurous! I know there is a hotbird sat at 13degrees east can i get anything of interest off it?