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Channel 4's top 100 War Films

Discussion in 'TV Show Forum' started by Stuart Wright, May 15, 2005.

  1. Stuart Wright

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    Excellent TV. Mini-reviews of 100 must-own movies on DVD, basically. Well 90, maybe. With at least one offensively racist movie amongst them.
     
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    yup thing i didnt like tho was how broad 'war films; was taken, i would really class gladiator as a historical epic rather than a 'war film'. im sure you know what i mean.
     
  3. Stuart Wright

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    Yeah seems like the remit is 'set in the time of war'.
    So The English Patient is included, which is set during WWII, but clearly isn't a war film.
    But then what is the definition of a war film? The Pianist and Schindler's List, for example, have few or no depictions of battles.
    But I would consider them two of the most important war films I have seen.
     
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    A lot of them I would not consider war films but taken during a war. eg Good Morning Vietnam, Casablanca it’s a bit like two people having a kiss in one of the top 100 and then classing it as a Romantic film.

    Must say it is good veiwing.
     
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    so which movie won then? i was betting on saving private ryan since it's a channel 4 program, but would have thought Schindler's list would be a more fair winner.
     
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    It was saving private ryan.

    If the remit was set in the time of war then what about empire strikes back or attack of the clones :D
     
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    ha, i had a conversation with a friend about yesterday afternoon, and said i thought SPR would win, and that it didn't deserve to! Great though it is, there are better war movies out there, especially if you're including anything with any sort of battle or conflict in it. what about braveheart for instance? surely that's better than SPR?
     
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    Top 5

    **** spolier - in case anyone has recorded it ****


    5. Full Metal Jacket
    4. Schindler's List
    3. The Great Escape
    2. Apocalypse Now
    1. Saving Private Ryan



    EDIT: Oh well
     
  9. Kenny Glasgow

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    These "Top 100..." programmes really annoy me and I refuse to watch them. Cheap TV full of talking heads that you've never heard of :thumbsdow
     
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    Enjoyed watching this (in between MOTD :D ), taped the 1`st half so will have to watch that later.

    Not sure if i'd put SPR at number 1 war film. However, I would rank SPR as No 1 in my all time cinema experiences i've ever had (only Star Wars could possibly better it) not to mention the opening 25 minutes being the greatest 25 minutes of film i've ever seen..
     
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    Surely fantasy isn't included ;)

    I agree about Saving Private Ryan - it is a good film but I wouldn't describe it as the best war film by a long margin. In fact with the exception of 3 and 4 in the list I would say none of them are particularly definitive IMHO. I still don't really 'get' number 2.
     
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    Hi,

    When I first heard about this, I was thinking that "There can't be 100 decent war films, that have actually been made, has there?". Sounds like I was right.

    Anyway, if I had to make a personal choice, Saving Private Ryan wouldn't be number one. For the first half hour, it's superb, but then it goes completely sentimental and silly, and just doesn't retain any of the horror and tension of that opening scene.

    FWIW, I think "Apocalypse Now" should have been at Number One.


    Pooch

    P.S. Having not actually seen the show, I'm presuming that the "racist movie" that everyone's talking about, is DW Griffiths' epic "The Birth Of A Nation" from 1918?! Racist it definitely is, but it's still an impressive film for its time and age.
     
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    I was really surprised that Gladiator was in there as apart from the battle at the beginning that was it the rest was about about he rise in fame in the arena and working towards his revenge. The could say have had some James Bond films in there because of a battles sequence like the underwater one in Thunderball of TSWLM for the battle in the super tanker etc.
     
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    yeah some odd choices. surley Ants must be a war film it had a huge battle in it! ;-D

    its probably apocolypse now for me too.

    mark
     
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    hmmm where did 'GLORY' (American Civil War epic) finish in the poll? Was a great movie was that!
     
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    No 68
     
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    Where Eagles Dare did not make it into the top ten.

    I seem to recall it was on the other sideof the square......
     
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    The Pianist should have scored higher imo. A brilliant depiction of the horrors of WWII.
     
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    I usually watch these 100 best...... programs but where do they get the votes from?.The top 100 albums which was on the other week was a farce.Abbey road didnt even featue in the top 100. :eek:
     
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    They were voted for by the public apparently.
     
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    ahhhh chavs then.. no wonder ;)
     
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    This program has annoyed me all day, who picks them and the people making the comments really get up my nose i mean the critics.
    Porkchop Hill , We were Soldiers , Battle of the bulge, so many missed i suppose 100 would be pushing it but no Gettysburg or gods & Generals and no Audie Murphy.
    Never mind i could have switched off
     
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    I have also wondered where they get the votes from tried to info find on channel 4 site but no joy - must be Sun readers (oooops!!)

    Where was Das Boot? surely must have been in there somewhere??
     
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    Only saw a bit of this whilst channel hopping.
    I've just read the list on channel4.com (5 per page - a bit of a pain). Das Boot was at 17. I didn't notice The Tin Drum or The Great Dictator.
     
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    On the same track was U571 there.... :confused: :rotfl:
     
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    Das Boot was no. 17.

    The full listings are available at the channel 4 website:

    http://www.channel4.com/film/newsfeatures/microsites/W/greatest_warfilms/results/100-96.html

    If movies like Gladiator were in there, why none of the Star Wars movies, or Battlestar Galactica, or Aliens (that was a "war" - of sorts!).

    And if anyone says they are fantasy - what about U571??? That film is a farce!!

    Everyone knows it was the British that got the Enigma machine, not the septics!
     
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    Black hawk down in the top ten!!!
     
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    Tell me about it! :rolleyes:

    Channel 4 printed a list of 150 albums from which punters vote for their favourite 10. "Abbey Road" was not included among the list of 150! They also missed out The Beatles "Rubber Soul", Bowie "Low", Bob Dylan "Highway 61 Revisited", Hendrix "Electric Ladyland", James Brown "Live and Lowdown At the Apollo", The Stones "Beggar's Banquet", Miles Davis "Kind of Blue" and many other widely acknowledged classics.

    Top researchers working on their shows obviously...
     
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    i thought one notable omision from the 100 was THE BATTLE OF THE BULGE. quality film a joke its note in there.
     
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    another couple of films missing were SINK THE BISMARK and BATTLE OF THE RIVER PLATE
     

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