CES 2019: What to Expect

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    1. AVForums

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      Headphones with HRT - Head Room Tracking. We saw launch of 2 major models from Audeze and Dolby in 2018. Next generation will be interesting.
       
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      Looking forward to the YouTube reports. 49" OLEDs would grab my attention.
       
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      Quantum dot technology MicroLED and mini led is top of my lists. Drones, New vr headsets, panasonic uhd players aswell.
       
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      I'll be trying my hardest to ignore the reports this time round... bought a new TV this year, so I don't want to read how much better the new model is :p
       
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      Just waiting for Micro LED. Anything else is just flogging a dead horse at this point. Including 8k and OLED.
       
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      Better quality control on panels might see better sales. The horror stories reported on here have put me off buying a new TV completely.
       
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      I am not expecting any big changes in OLED front, same old boring stuff as usual with 4-5 percent increase in brightness with bandings remaining the main reason to return them. However, I am hoping LCD introduce some new tech, like Micro led, not just demonstration of another future tech, which will never see the light of the day, like Sony's Crystal TV few years back. But I fear, nothing new will be incorporated in consumer TVs but companies will just flog 8K TV resolution to flood the market, urging the consumers to 'upgrade'.
       
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      Totally agree. If manufacturers could remove the TV panel lottery, it would be great.
       
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      I agree with you there. While there is no Doubt OLED has great picture quality but from an advancement point of view it has been pretty poor. Very small increases each year. Some older sets are even brighter than newer sets. Im guessing we will see some Mini LED backlight sets. Maybe a few more sets claiming 4000 nits of brightness. Some Micro LED updates but nothing for the consumers. Of course there will most likely be more 8K models. I wonder if Sony will have a proper 8K flagship at CES with more zones/better backlight tech.
       
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      I totally agree but that costs money. All people seem to do is buy the cheapest OLED out there and then wonder why there is low quality control.

      Buy Korean not Japanese and wonder why there is low quality control :rotfl:
       
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      Nice universal disc players please :)
       
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      Personal anti-drone device with fire and forget capabilities. For those wanting to go on holiday and not have it ruined by some tosser.
       
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      The trouble is you still play the panel lottery on the flagship products.
       
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      New TVs that can dance and yell back at the wife. :)
       
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      Please let the commercial Micro-LEDs get released. I'm done with the sh*t OLED garbage where you can't even enjoy normal content on without babysitting. To prone for static images and certain colours.
       
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      More of those laser wall projectors I hope!
       
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      Agreed but Panel lottery can be ALMOST completely avoided by checks and quality control but that takes time for LG Display and the TV manufacturer which in turn costs money.

      I always look back to 2015 when Panasonic released the CZ952, even when the OLED panels had so many issues highlighted in the LG OLED review of the time. Panasonic seemed to go above and beyond to select the right Panels, made a limited number of unit but the end user got a pretty much flawless (for the time) OLED

      only problem was the LG OLEDs being £4000 and the Panasonic at £8000 :confused:= Cost of quality control sadly

      You wont see a brand try and do that now as they are all in a cost race to get the cheapest OLED (good for Joe Bloggs average consumer though)
       
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      How about one that seems to be 55" whenever the Wife is in the Room, but is 65" whenever she's out! :thumbsup:
       
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      I’d have thought she’d have preferred to have the extra 10” when she was at home?
       
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      A joke so bad on Xmas day is worthy of a Christmas cracker: adult edition! :rotfl:
       
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      Bad Jokes aside !!! You may have a good idea...a tv that can extend as needed from 0-49 to 65 will be good for occasional viewing in small spaces
      LG bringing a rolled oled so not that far from reality...if you can change the length
       
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      every year I see and hear about the greatest TV tech that comes out and then listen to the various complaints about: screen burn,crushed blacks, poor HDR, panel lotteries,grey bars,poor motion control,poor off axis viewing, washed out blacks and lack of Dolby Vision

      then I turn on my Kuro KRP 600A 60incher now in its 11th year and thoroughly enjoy the superb 'natural' HD images and just be happy that I don't get caught up in the 'upgraditis' hype.

      I know its not 4k but I cant say i'm bothered and for all those who have bought into it 8K is now being touted....so that's the next carrot

      I'll wait for 'Wall' or until my tv packs up before I upgrade
       
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      I checked with the Wife and she said that "55" was more than enough to satisfy her, thank you very much - any more than that, and we would have to communicate via Megaphones"
      No idea what she was alluding to :)
       
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      Fair play to you and I have to agree in many ways. I also have a Pioneer in it's 11th year and it resides quite happily in the lounge. I finally upgraded after 10 years, (for 7 years I didn't even look at another tv thinking 3D and curved tvs to be fads), wasn't so fussed about 4k from my 4m viewing position, (though at times it is impressive and I'll sit 2m away to better appreciate it), however, I do appreciate the perfect blacks of my LG C8 OLED that put even my Kuro to shame. That and I don't miss the often audible screen buzz of the plasma, plus having Netlfix, Amazon Prime, Youtube etc. built in is more useful than I imagined: I watch quite a lot of 4k content on Netflix with a number of shows in Dolby Vision and/or Atmos; not that I have an amp or speakers required! On my plasma I have an old Apple tv box but it can be a bit of a faff for Netlfix, YouTube and Prime and one less remote is always preferable.

      The main reason I upgraded was to increase screen size from 50" to 65", so if I'd had a 60" Pioneer like you I probably wouldn't have bothered. I would have waited until the 77" falls to £3,000 or less; The nearer to £2,000 the better obviously: or for my plasma to fail like you said. It was handy that we only had a crap 2nd hand 40" LCD in the lounge meaning I could still keep my plasma and the missus got an upgrade for her X-Factor/Voice viewing. The 40" went in the kitchen to replace a crap 32" LCD that we inherited when we bought the house. The 32" going to a friend.

      As for 8K, I'm hoping to be ready to upgrade to one in 10 years time! No rush, there isn't sufficient 4k out there yet and Sky doesn't even have a dedicated Channel. I was looking at my lounge and wondering how large a screen could be accommodated. The room is 5m x 4m. I think an 150" screen is about the max size. That would probably do justice to 8K. My tv room is 5m × 3m wide and could probably accommodate an 100" though in time I know I will have to convert it back into a bedroom.

      I vaguely recollect talk years ago of Japanese broadcasters stating that they would rather ignore 4k and jump straight to 8k as they felt full HD TO 4K wasn't a meaningful improvement. Does anyone else remember this?

      Aplogies for the rambling nature of the above.
       
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      Just buy a 65inch TV and after explain that it is about 57inch in width.
       
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      Sort of played that card with going up from just a 50" plasma to the 55" B7 (With the Bezel being much thicker on the Plasma). But she is one smart cookie & has gone & looked at 55" & 65" LG OLEDs side by side, and so she knows how much more the 65" is. We don't do anything with our place except by mutual consent, so it's a No until expanding TV's become a reality ;)
       
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      Final plan.

      Sit 1 foot closer to the TV than your wife and hopefully this will annoy her enough to the point where she tells you to get the 65inch.
       

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