Discussion in 'Sony TVs Forum' started by Steve Withers, Jan 8, 2019.
Sony unveils its Master Series AG9 4K OLED TV and ZG9 8K LCD TV at CES 2019.
Read the news.
While the sizes are way to big for what I can fit in my room im interested to see how the backlight turns out on the 8K model compared to the ZF9. That was a real let down compared to the ZD9 when it came to the backlight and zones but the way they are wording it here sounds like they have put a lot more into it for this 8K set.
I wonder what the AG9 is going to be priced at for us in Canada. $5999 is too much for a 65” AF9 OLED when the Panasonic FZ950 can be had for $3000
That x-wide angle again. Hope it doesn’t ruin everything again. It’s a little frustrating they didn’t put a backlight master drive on a 65 or 75” model.
Nice thanks Steve.
Sony have just updated there UK site
Televisions | Flat Screen & LED TVs | HD & Full HD TVs | Sony UK
Looks like some great quality of life improvements. Having just bought an AF9 I don't feel too bad. One thing that isn't clear is whether the 'Dolby Atmos' support means these new models just decode the audio or act as Dolby Atmos sound bars.?
Will be interesting to see how much the 98" version costs. Panasonic's 100" Plasma was £50,000 back in the day iirc. Think I remember John Lewis selling it for £40,000!?
Not that I'd ever be able to get such a large tv up my stairs into the Lounge. Which is a shame as the room is 4.8m x 4m wide and could accommodate a tv 250cm diagonally. With the screen an acoustic panel up to 150" is theoretically possible.
John Archer added a picture of the set. Quite a bit of blooming. I hope the Xwide viewing angles feature isn't also effecting these sets too much.
Android TV with iTunes streaming ect. 2019 is a wild a year
Sony to get Android TV working without issues would be a wild year
Good to see the centre channel feature is still on the new sets
Blimey Sony are really pushing out the TV's over the last two years! I wonder if iTunes will come to my 55A1, would then mean I wouldn't need to get ATV 4K.
This is a compromise as I cannot see any reference to iTunes App on the Sony TV or new LG’s. Airplay 2 will not support 4k HDR/ATMOS.
The new 2019 Samsung TV’s actually have an iTUNES TV APP. So you can watch 4k HDR iTunes Movies with Atmos.
Two years ago, the Sony 100ZD9 television cost £60,000.
That's actually a good point! I live on the first floor of a block of tenement flats and it was an .... interesting experience for Richer Sounds to deliver the boxes containing my 75" televisions up the fairly narrow central staircase. I think that the box containing an 85" television might just be possible to bring up the central staircase, but anything bigger might be a real problem! Which is a shame, because my ideal size of television for my parlour is 90", but no problem, nobody makes a 90" television anyway.
As they're using X-Wide, it'll be interesting to see if those supposed pitch blacks can be achieved and were I to have bought the LED variant last year, I'd actually be less than amused if it was so here.
Seems a weird choice if the 85" LED is straddled with that floor stand, as I'd be looking for a tabletop remedy. Still, I expect the 85" will be sweat bead forming in cost.
£60k! Wow. That’s niche! I’m guessing £25,000 for the 98”.
I live in a townhouse. The first staircase goes up and then turns to the right for the last few steps with a 2nd staircase above restricting head height. 65” OLED box went up fine. 75” might be the limit without removing packaging. Not sure what the limit is!? Maybe rollable OLED or Micro LED panels is the solution!?
I can only imagine there will be further announcements later in the year. Because right now they've split the XF90 replacements into a 49" XG90 with few, if any, upgrades from last year, and an XG95 range from 55" up that gets the acoustic surface and processor that can actually handle the task of running Android in a non-embarrassing way from the AF9 / ZF9. Then the XG85 edge-lit lacks anything smaller than a 55" either, and the only other new model is a WG66 1080p at 43" or 50".
People that want quality with a smaller set are going to have to go elsewhere.
Sony announced their lower range models after CES last year, they tend to be low key affairs. So the XG80/70 etc will come along eventually.
Thanks - that makes more sense, then.
The ZG is looking exceptionally interesting, 20x contrast that's better than the zd9 at 16x and it has backlight master drive, hopefully reintroducing these technologies will solve the x wide problem from the zf9???
Are you sure you haven't unwittingly moved into an eternity trick staircase building?
£25K for the 98"? Ah, such that dreams are made of...
And I'm guessing quite significantly more than that, say £40,000? I'd be delighted to be proved wrong, but of course this is entirely a theoretical discussion for me, because even in my parlour (if I want to retain access to my two windows) the largest I could go is 85" or 88". Not to mention that of course I don't happen to have a spare £25,000, £40,000 or whatever the actual figure turns out to be!
Slightly more relevantly, the most interesting thing about this XG range is the ability to incorporate the television itself as the centre speaker for a home cinema system. I look forward to seeing that tested - will the typical Arcam, Yamaha or Denon receiver or pre-amplifier be able to match the acoustic characteristics of the Sony television acting as a centre speaker to the characteristics of the other speakers in the home cinema setup, in particular to the front Left and Right speakers?
Well, if you are serious and prepared to pay postage from me to you and then from you back to me, I have all the boxes that my three 75" televisions came in, and then you can see if you can get one box safely up your staircase!
Interestingly, the box that my Panasonic 65VT65 plasma came in is bigger than any of these three 75" boxes! I mean, it is stupidly big.
So lg the only one with 2.1 HDMI, Imax Enhanced is very interesting
Any news on whether they’ll have a full DV implementation, or continue with the current half-baked effort?
Sony's obsession with X-Wide angle, kills the all important Black level that was a huge hit with the legendary ZD9.
They're ready to sacrifice Black levels with slightly wider angle viewing. This mega size and no doubt mega expensive TV will not be a great success, it does not even have HDMI 2.1 out of the box, and knowing Sony's past record of promises, it's not good.
Have to say Sony...your lack of HDMI 2.1 In your Flagship OLED is really poor. Appears LG have the Lead on Sony & Panasonic's OLED Range in terms of 2.1.
Finding impression of the new zg9 seems to be limited at the moment, but this one from Forbes seems very encouraging.
Many/most features can be utilized with 2.0b anyway depending on how they implement the chip and bandwidth. Full 2.1 is only needed more so for 8K/120 so much of this is moot and Sony will have to do this for the 8K sets - just like Samsung this year..
Yes fair points well made...but with LG having the foresight and the drive to give Consumers & the AV Community what they are looking for right now, particularly Gamers at this juncture has to be applauded. And when 120fps Sports, fast panning action arrives you really don't want to be spending another 3 or 4 grand on yet another TV to bring yourself in line when you can do it now...one purchase, one financial hit. Future proof yourself as best you can in the most cost effective way you can.
That's just my humble opinion...each to their own.
Yeah fair play. The LCD variant may prove - cost allowing - as future proof, if ever there really is such a thing, an option particularly for gamers who don't want the risk of screen burn and are looking for brighter HDR/gaming/movie experiences compared to OLED.
None of this is going to be exactly cheap. And as the ZF9 75" was/is 5K, you can only imagine these new big boys are going to cause the sweats.
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