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CES 2018: Panasonic Interview – FZ952 and FZ802 OLED 4K TVs

Discussion in 'Panasonic TVs Forum' started by Steve Withers, Jan 7, 2018.


    1. Steve Withers

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      Surely it would improve their sales against LG in the European market if they added DV for their TV's
       
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      Great questions and answers, though there were a lot of "watch this space" answers(which i have heard before, DV for example).

      Thanks Steve
       
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      Given that your reviews of last year's Panasonic OLEDs completely failed to pick up on an inherent flaw in motion handling that is now frustrating many, many users on this forum and Panasonic have utterly failed to fix.........

      .......... It's really good to see you giving Panasonic a really hard time about whether their 2018 sets will also have this issue, and whether or not their lack of interest in fixing the problem for the lucky purchasers of last years flagships will follow through to 2018 as well.

      Or not..... ;):thumbsup:
       
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      The inclusion of DV in 2018 sets would have an icing on the cake. No doubt it'll harm sales figures and I for one would have to think twice before handing my purchase card, for the latest models. Stupid Panasonic.
       
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      Depends if hdr10+ end up being the default hdr instead of hdr10
      It is free and don’t see the point of hdr10 anymore...
       
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      Biggest mistake and issue for pana is not fixing the issue from 2017 TVs. They didn’t even commit to a timeline ?!!
      So, really makes you doubt on follow up to issues/bugs. It is becoming as important as selling the tv...LG king there followed by Sony.
       
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      At the moment no one uses HD10 + and it will take long time, if it's adopted by others. Where as DV is widely supported by Apple and streaming sites and UHD discs.
       
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      Hdr
      Not really...DV looks poor..only Mindhunter looks "right" on viewing, far to much varience on Dolby Vision titles,i wish my Lg Oled would do Hdr 10 instead of DV on Netflix, Hdr 10 on other sources always looks correct without need to tweak things.

      One thing Panasonic should address is there inclusion of up to date audio codecs like Dts x and Atmos.
       
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      And that’s the area you will see the biggest improvement this year. It is subtle but focus of this year is on processing especially for hdr treatment...
      They are learning and adapting..this year crop will handle hdr or simulate it like never before...mark my words.
       
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      You have the basic HDR 10 on your LG OLED. You mean you wish you had HDR 10 +? but then again there is no content available yet on HDR 10 +.
       
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      No i wish there was a way i could view Netflix's DV titles in bog standard Hdr 10....as i mentioned DV doesn't look natural ( Mindhunter being an exception) compered to when i view Hdr 10 films/shows on Amazon or Usb pen.
       
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      Rob switched from LG to Panasonic this year!:D I thought I saw him last year speaking about 2017 LG OLED range.
       
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      Improving the mid range is very good. If the price is right, maybe FZ800 will be a good alternative to the LG sets.
       
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      My Panny DX902 (previous TV) did HDR Netflix and the majority of us owners wished it didn’t even do That!

      4k would have been fine as HDR was pretty much rubbish.

      I don’t think it’s DV on your Oled - it’s HDR / DV in general on Netflix.

      I’d much rather have DV on day one as not much to stop the LG using HDR10+ later down the road given its open source and I’d assume the processors would be capable if they can accommodate DV already.

      Didn’t even consider getting the Panny Oled based on on DV / price.

      Sadly it’s another reason I won’t be buying their UHD players in future even though I love my UB700.

      EDIT: oh wow. Just saw the new Panny UHD players will have DV. Very excited by this!!!
       
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      Hi Steve,

      next time you see the Panasonic people, please get them to update us on stutter bug solution and timeline. would also like to know when we will see HDR 10+ and what other software updates we can expect (2017 pana owners).

      Thanks!
       
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      Strange that the new Panasonc UHD Blu Ray player supports HDR10, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision, but their top of the range OLED sets won't... I don't really see the point of paying the DV license but not making the most of it!
       
    18. Steve Withers

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      We will be doing follow-up technical questions with Panasonic tomorrow and that's one of the questions I'll be asking them.
       
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      I hope the judder issue is fixed on these 2018 panels, or i will just buy a Sony.
       
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      Can you also ask if the panel will be up to date with audio codecs like Dts x and Dolby Atmos...i returned my Ez952 last year as it struggled playing a lot of content through there internal apps.
       
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      Meh was the first though after watching that interview he couldn't commit to DV or inform on the the input lag. I'm waiting to upgrade my LG 2015 OLED to the latest and this is most certainly off my list. LG have superior HDR support & low input lag. I'm after HDMI 2.1 so still waiting to see what comes this year.
       
    22. Steve Withers

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      I can answer that question right now, no it doesn't support Dolby Atmos or DTS:X.
       
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      I doubt that you will see anyone announce HDMI 2.1 support at this year's CES, although if they can do dynamic metadata, eARC and VRR via HDMI 2.0b does it really matter?
       
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      @Steve Withers Please put Panasonic on the spot and ask them for a definitive answer to the 50Hz stutter issue that has plagued the 2017 LCD and OLED range. I started a petition about the issue ( Sign the Petition ) which has had over 200 signatures from AVForums members. It was physically delivered to the head of Panasonic UK last year but I've had absolutely zero response from them.

      A lot of us have spent significant amounts of money on these premium TVs, but more than six months after they hit the streets they're still failing in the most basic aspect of simply being able to display a UK TV picture.

      We need to know where we stand.
       
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      Well i'd be interested to hear if any of the new TVs can do this.
       
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      In which case that's the Panasonic out of consideration even before there released....supposed to be a high end product with a price to match but they don't even cover the basics properly.... Lg again it is then.
       
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      I can't find it now, but apparently Panasonic said they had a fix going through final sign off, ETA end of January.
       
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      Yes, absolutely, but it being reported by him isn’t the same as Panasonic saying it themselves.
       
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      Hopefully with Rob joining Panasonic he can bring some LG service with him, I regret in a way trading my Lg 47lm620 for a CX680 while the 4K Picture is stunning i have had nothing but issues with sound from any of the apps and Panasonic response is always the same, telling me it's my network.

      I also hope he can inject some inspiration to there smart platform, no one wants to make apps for bar the pre installed ones, NowTV, GoogleMovies and such are on most other brands.

      Also support after a year just stops, My LG was 2 years old when i traded and still received updates.

      This year I'm more excited for Samsung and Lg than Panasonic and I have to sell Panasonic.
       
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      Honestly, I’m not sure why Panasonic are even bothering.
       

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