CES 2018: Panasonic announces new FZ950 & FZ800 OLED 4K TV line-up with HDR10+

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    1. Steve Withers

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      The dynamic LUT and calibration features sound interesting and it's good that the entire range gets them and not just the overkill speaker wise 952, why pay for "four larger woofers, four squawkers and two tweeters, plus a quad passive radiator" when you already have a decent surround sound setup. But I expect there will be more to differentiate the two model ranges than just the speakers.
       
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      No Dolby Vision while the new UHD players are able to play it.. The marketing of 21 century that is totally unreasonable
      What about eARC?

      My first feeling about this TV can be desribed as " the same "close to DCI-P3" coverage. No 3D support. 10-bit panels. No HFR. No HDMI 2.1"
       
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      I find it laughable that the Panasonic marketing spiel includes so much technical blurb aimed at AV enthusiasts / calibrators and colourists, just as it did at CES 2017, yet their OLED TVs had a basic flaw in motion handling that you wouldn't expect to find in a £350 set from Asda! What exactly is the point of an advanced "Dynamic LUT system" when the sets are unlikely to even handle 25p motion properly?

      The 2017 Panasonic sets have a catastrophic problem with motion handling that after months and months of waiting still is yet to be fixed. The Panasonic sets had a single firmware update in the last year; the LG's received multiple, many of which improved image quality even 6 months after initial release.

      If Panasonic want to appeal to enthusiasts then perhaps they could at the very least bother to fix such a basic flaw in a reasonable space of time.

      With their recent track record I I think anyone considering these apparent high-end OLEDs in 2018 above those from LG and Sony would be completely off their rocker unless Panny show even the slightest bit of interest in sorting out their flagship sets from 2017.
       
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      Panasonic were told about the 25p bug in 2017 models and apparently there was a fix pending final sign off.
       
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      Still "pending sign off" in January 2018 when the issue was noted 6 months ago....and helpfully............"Panasonic would not be drawn on a specific timeline..........";

      Now that's what I call great customer service! :clap::clap:
       
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      Had the same thoughts about Dolby Vision as well, why put out UHD players with Dolby Vision and 3D support, yet their displays don't do either.
       
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      I suspect that Panny are still holding out on paying the license fee to Dolby. With DV still being pretty slow uptake at source material level, not quite compelling enough, yet?
       
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      You might be right but it seems strange that they will pay the fee for their player but not the TVs.
       
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      Catastrophic lol. Hyperbole much? [emoji3]
       
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      All sounds interesting, but a little confusing ?
      No 3D
      No DV
      Yet the new Panasonic UHD Blu Ray players do support it :thumbsdow

      So in 2019 we will get Oled with 3D, DV, and HDMI 2.1, :clap::clap:
       
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      Hold up. Wasn’t this guy with LG?
      Pretty certain I recall him extolling the virtues of LG OLED last year?
       
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      That's what i thought too!
       
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      I wonder if the higher model 950 get the black filter as was the case for last year, this is not mentioned here except for the speaker.

      There is hardly any reason to get the higher priced 950 just for the speaker and does not look as sleek as the 800 model, which will be cheaper and sell far more. Apart from the stutter in 2017 models, they have been excellent.

      Just hope they managed to iron the banding and tinting issues for this year and improve upon near black performance.
       
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      3D TVs are dead and buried, friend.
      You just have to live with it or get 2016 models.
       
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      @SteveWithers you asked them about BBC iPlayer supporting HLG. Could you ask Panasonic why Blue Planet 2 HLG does not work on the DX902? As it has had a firmware update to support HLG.
       
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      Im joking ...
       
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      Both of them have 'Absolute Black Filter', unlike last year when the top end model had it, to minimize light reflections.
       
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      It certainly is, he said "Unlike last year, all of the new 2018 models will include an Absolute Black Filter"
       
    20. Steve Withers

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      Yes it is, Rob moved from LG to Panasonic late last year.
       
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      We will be doing follow-up technical questions with Panasonic tomorrow and that's one of the questions I'll be asking them.
       
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      I'll ask Panasonic about that tomorrow.
       
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      Thanks for the report Steve.

      I'd been hoping Panasonic might add DV this year :(
      Always loved (and bought) Panasonic TVs but think I'll have to put my money elsewhere for my next upgrade.

      Is it too much to ask for a TV that will handle any and every kind of image processing?
      All this DV vs HDR between the manufacturers is ridiculous.

      I noticed that Rob Taylor didn't rule out DV for the future... so why not now? So annoying.
       
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      With their blu-ray player handling both DV and HDR10+, maybe all that is holding back Panasonic OLEDs is the right deal from Dolby. Be strange if they do support DV though as in some respects if they did, they would be in a better position than LG/Sony, in covering all the HDR bases.
       
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      He didn't rule it out but he was just being diplomatic, I was told that this year's Panasonic TVs don't have the necessary chipset to support Dolby Vision, so they won't be adding it in 2018.
       
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      You do realise that none of that has anything to do with Panasonic - everything you have mentioned is outwith their control.

      Also not getting this fascination with the need to "have" Dolby Vision or no sale ...
       
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      How stupid of them not to include DV in the 2018?!?!
      Why handicap yourself by alienating potential customers. I mean who is going to buy theirs when there are decent alternatives about with all the features?
      Nuts!
       
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      Of course you have a point. But similarly, where is the logic in adding dv in your player but not your TVs ???
      What does it say about importance of dV. for now in term of sales? Irrespective if it will hold true to hdr10+ in the long run ?

      Hope Sony at least sort the blu rays nonsense.
       
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      Once again I'm frustrated with Panasonic, looks like their arrogance with not including Dolby Vision is going to lose them sales by not including it, so eventually they will have to include it to compete with LG and SONY. I wanted to upgrade this year from my DX902 to an OLED, been loyal to Panasonic for many years and it might be ending soon if they cannot get their acts together? So they are saying that even if they get the license they cannot be used on the 2018 TV's, how ridiculous, I'm not happy if they expect me to have to wait until 2019 for a Panasonic DV TV.
       
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      I think it is clear that Panasonic don't want to hand over any control of how their TV's handle content to a 3rd party - that has always been their stance and I applaud them for it

      What is the fascination with Dolby Vision anyway - have you viewed it and decided it is a must purchase or are you simply just box ticking??

      Any review I have seen has said that it may bring marginal improvements yet people seem to think it is the 2nd coming ...

      HDR10+ should hopefully be the main standard moving forward.
       
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