CD copies suffering frequent drop-outs

Bert Coules

Well-known Member
Someone has lent me several home- (or rather office-) recorded audio CDs. I don't know what equipment they were recorded on. These disks play perfectly on a variety of players, but when I try to copy them on my Pioneer PDR-609 the copies suffer from frequent momentary drop-outs.

Other recordings on the Pioneer, using the same make of Audio-CD blanks, are perfect.

The recordings I'm trying to dub are direct CD copies of privately-produced music and speech material, not commercial releases. Is this just a case of incompatibility somewhere along the line? Could it be some sort of copy-protection? In either case, is there anything I can do to stop it happening?

Many thanks,

Bert
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Daneel

Active Member
Use your PC to copy them. Exact Audio Copy is the best.

By the way, "audio-CD blanks" are nothing of the sort. They are normal CDRs that have had money paid to record companies, hence the higher price.
 

Bert Coules

Well-known Member
Daneel,

Thanks for the reply. Is your forum name Isaac Asimov-related?

I'm not familiar with Exact Audio Copy; I'll check that out.

My Pioneer refuses to record onto non-audio CD-R's, so they must differ from the Audio ones in some way, surely?

Bert
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mjn

Distinguished Member
yeah the CD-R's for hi-fi use have a little marker at the beginning of the track, to indicate the type of blank.
 

Bert Coules

Well-known Member
mjn,

Thanks for that. I recall someone saying that the Pioneer could be fooled into using non-audio CD-Rs by inserting an audio disk first, waiting for the setup process to finish and then prising open the drawer and replacing the disk with a standard one. I haven't tried it.

Bert
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mjn

Distinguished Member
Sounds like fun! :) You're buggered if you break the drawer though!

All for the sake of saving a few pence.
 

Bert Coules

Well-known Member
All for the sake of saving a few pence.

My thought exactly, though there is another aspect: I've not so far been able to find Audio CD-Rs with a printable white surface. Do you know if they exist?

I don't at the moment have a printer capable of printing directly to CDs, but I'm considering getting one. Not to be able to use Audio CD-Rs would be a bit of a drawback to the whole idea.

Bert
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MarkE19

Moderator
I've not been able to find printable audio CD-R's either. The way I get around it is to record onto CD-RW's on my Pioneer recorder and then copy the disk on the PC onto a printable CD-R.

Mark.
 

Bert Coules

Well-known Member
Mark,

Seems a bit of a fag, but it's a good idea. Thanks. It's a curious gap in the market, isn't it?

I've just ordered one of the dedicated TDK thermal CD printers, just for basic text-only labelling. The reviews suggest that it can work with a variety of surfaces including silver and gold, so it will be interesting playing around with its capabilities.

Bert
www.bertcoules.co.uk
 

mjn

Distinguished Member
you can get burners for the PC that print on CD-R's, i think Yamaha make one.

But i've never seen printable Audio CD-R's
 

Bert Coules

Well-known Member
That's fascinating, thanks for the link.

It's a bit limited, isn't it? You can only print onto those bits of the surface that don't contain data. And in any case, I must say I'm more than a touch dubious about printing label-type information onto the playing side of the disk in the first place - how many users merrily put the CD into the drive upside-down as a result, and then wonder why it won't play?

Or am I misunderstanding what the burner will do?

Bert
www.bertcoules.co.uk
 

mjn

Distinguished Member
Yeah, i've just fully read it now. Only the unused part of the CD is available for the writing / graphics.

There might be other options out there.
 

MarkE19

Moderator
I looked at the TDK. Its small so will fit on any desk, but at around £80 I thought it was better value to pay £100 and get a full surface/full colour inkjet printer that will also be cheaper to run. Thats why I got the Epson R200. Only printed a few disks so far, but it has created great prints on what I have done.

Mark.
 

Bert Coules

Well-known Member
I managed to pick up the TDK for almost half-price. I agree that at pushing £100, a full-blown printer would be a much better bet - plus, of course, it will print on virtually the whole of the CD surface, and also do jewel-case inserts.

The TDK's small footprint will be a useful feature, though: I already have a massive HP Laserjet which takes up far too much space.

Bert
www.bertcoules.co.uk
 

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