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CD copies suffering frequent drop-outs

Discussion in 'Hi-Fi Stereo Systems & Separates' started by Bert Coules, Apr 17, 2004.

  1. Bert Coules

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    Someone has lent me several home- (or rather office-) recorded audio CDs. I don't know what equipment they were recorded on. These disks play perfectly on a variety of players, but when I try to copy them on my Pioneer PDR-609 the copies suffer from frequent momentary drop-outs.

    Other recordings on the Pioneer, using the same make of Audio-CD blanks, are perfect.

    The recordings I'm trying to dub are direct CD copies of privately-produced music and speech material, not commercial releases. Is this just a case of incompatibility somewhere along the line? Could it be some sort of copy-protection? In either case, is there anything I can do to stop it happening?

    Many thanks,

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    Use your PC to copy them. Exact Audio Copy is the best.

    By the way, "audio-CD blanks" are nothing of the sort. They are normal CDRs that have had money paid to record companies, hence the higher price.
     
  3. Bert Coules

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    Daneel,

    Thanks for the reply. Is your forum name Isaac Asimov-related?

    I'm not familiar with Exact Audio Copy; I'll check that out.

    My Pioneer refuses to record onto non-audio CD-R's, so they must differ from the Audio ones in some way, surely?

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    yeah the CD-R's for hi-fi use have a little marker at the beginning of the track, to indicate the type of blank.
     
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    mjn,

    Thanks for that. I recall someone saying that the Pioneer could be fooled into using non-audio CD-Rs by inserting an audio disk first, waiting for the setup process to finish and then prising open the drawer and replacing the disk with a standard one. I haven't tried it.

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    Sounds like fun! :) You're buggered if you break the drawer though!

    All for the sake of saving a few pence.
     
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    All for the sake of saving a few pence.

    My thought exactly, though there is another aspect: I've not so far been able to find Audio CD-Rs with a printable white surface. Do you know if they exist?

    I don't at the moment have a printer capable of printing directly to CDs, but I'm considering getting one. Not to be able to use Audio CD-Rs would be a bit of a drawback to the whole idea.

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    I've not been able to find printable audio CD-R's either. The way I get around it is to record onto CD-RW's on my Pioneer recorder and then copy the disk on the PC onto a printable CD-R.

    Mark.
     
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    Mark,

    Seems a bit of a fag, but it's a good idea. Thanks. It's a curious gap in the market, isn't it?

    I've just ordered one of the dedicated TDK thermal CD printers, just for basic text-only labelling. The reviews suggest that it can work with a variety of surfaces including silver and gold, so it will be interesting playing around with its capabilities.

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    you can get burners for the PC that print on CD-R's, i think Yamaha make one.

    But i've never seen printable Audio CD-R's
     
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    You can get burners for the PC that print on CD-R's, I think Yamaha make one.

    I've never heard of that. I must have a hunt around.

    Thanks.

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    That's fascinating, thanks for the link.

    It's a bit limited, isn't it? You can only print onto those bits of the surface that don't contain data. And in any case, I must say I'm more than a touch dubious about printing label-type information onto the playing side of the disk in the first place - how many users merrily put the CD into the drive upside-down as a result, and then wonder why it won't play?

    Or am I misunderstanding what the burner will do?

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    Yeah, i've just fully read it now. Only the unused part of the CD is available for the writing / graphics.

    There might be other options out there.
     
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    That TDK thermal printer looks interesting for basic text labeling (and small clipart bits and pieces too). I should be getting one next week.

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    I looked at the TDK. Its small so will fit on any desk, but at around £80 I thought it was better value to pay £100 and get a full surface/full colour inkjet printer that will also be cheaper to run. Thats why I got the Epson R200. Only printed a few disks so far, but it has created great prints on what I have done.

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    I managed to pick up the TDK for almost half-price. I agree that at pushing £100, a full-blown printer would be a much better bet - plus, of course, it will print on virtually the whole of the CD surface, and also do jewel-case inserts.

    The TDK's small footprint will be a useful feature, though: I already have a massive HP Laserjet which takes up far too much space.

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