Casino Royale 4K Blu-ray Review & Comments

MarkNorton1

Well-known Member
Thanks Cas, been looking forward to this one, a little disappointing but expected based on what I had read from the US releases, won't stop me picking them up though!
 

Gazgum

Well-known Member
Yes,another great write-up,thank you Cas!
If only this hadn’t been shot in the thick of the 2K DI culture! :thumbsdow
 

Evinger

Well-known Member
Thanks Cas. Feels like I'm doing just as well staying with my Blu Ray version with my LG doing a little upscaling :)
 

UMAR 3:16

Well-known Member
Awesome review. Wish it had atmos. Makes me want to sell my deluxe edition and get the 4K version
 

steviedr

Distinguished Member
Thanks for the review Cas.
Still have a soft spot for this one.

Skyfall will hopefully look gorgeous (I think it may be, but hoping it's a 4k DI) and let us appreciate Mr Deakins beautiful lighting/camera work.
 

Gazgum

Well-known Member
Thanks for the review Cas.
Still have a soft spot for this one.

Skyfall will hopefully look gorgeous (I think it may be, but hoping it's a 4k DI) and let us appreciate Mr Deakins beautiful lighting/camera work.
Skyfall and Spectre (sounds like a double act!) are both 4K DIs.
 

BrightonChris

Distinguished Member
As a massive Bond fan, this is second only to Majesty's for me. Such a shame that all of Craig's following efforts have been so poor. Saw this again recently and the Blu could do with some improvement so may check this out.
 

Goonerdude

Active Member
Not a massive Bond fan but l couldn’t resist picking up the DG collection import from America for £35 delivered. Hopefully these will be an uptick from the iTunes 4K versions. Great review Cas.
 

gadget man

Active Member
Fantastic film not only best bond movie but a great film full stop. What a shame used a different director/editor for the follow up. Only if Stuart Baird had remained instead of the two hacks who edited Quantum Of Solace.
 

BrightonChris

Distinguished Member
Fantastic film not only best bond movie but a great film full stop. What a shame used a different director/editor for the follow up. Only if Stuart Baird had remained instead of the two hacks who edited Quantum Of Solace.
I think there's a good film buried beneath that horrible edit of QoS.
 

domtheone

Distinguished Member
Yes,another great write-up,thank you Cas!
If only this hadn’t been shot in the thick of the 2K DI culture! :thumbsdow
Shot on film so I guess it could have still had a true 4K release.

Pity Sony didn't have the reigns on this release.

The only DC Bond film I would be interested in owning (prob top 5 Bond film) but I was hoping for a AAA transfer.
 

Jim Di Griz

Distinguished Member
Thanks Cas. From what I have read about the new 4K Bond releases, I'm not too bothered about picking them up in all honesty!
 

Casimir Harlow

Blu-ray Reviewer
Thanks Cas. From what I have read about the new 4K Bond releases, I'm not too bothered about picking them up in all honesty!
Skyfall is one of the best looking 4K releases of the year... working on that one atm. But, as a package, you could do worse than wait for the actual 4K Daniel Craig collection, considering the guy isn't done yet in the role!
 

Casimir Harlow

Blu-ray Reviewer
So are they doing the whole lot from Dr No with HDR transfers?
Well all pre-Craig Bonds have had 4K remasters done so it really is just a matter of time. But as I mentioned, this set is likely just a promo to test the waters and see how much interest there is in the whole set. Because a Bond 50-esque collection in 4K would have a hefty price tag.
 

BrightonChris

Distinguished Member
Well all pre-Craig Bonds have had 4K remasters done so it really is just a matter of time. But as I mentioned, this set is likely just a promo to test the waters and see how much interest there is in the whole set. Because a Bond 50-esque collection in 4K would have a hefty price tag.
I've seen the 4k stuff on iTunes but after spending a chunk on the Blu ray collection I didn't want to double dip. And it's always the HDR that is the real upgrade. I think some of the Connery's could look great. Thunderball springs to mind.
 

Hari Seldon

Standard Member
As a massive Bond fan, this is second only to Majesty's for me. Such a shame that all of Craig's following efforts have been so poor. Saw this again recently and the Blu could do with some improvement so may check this out.
My thoughts exactly. Such a shame all of Craig's subsequent Bond films were awful. I guess choice of directors has consequences.
 

Dubliner1

Well-known Member
love ya'man but yesterday you were telling us Carlito's Way is a better film than Scarface and now today you are telling us blondie is the the best Bond ever? You havin' a laugh? :)
 

steviedr

Distinguished Member
Skyfall is one of the best looking 4K releases of the year... working on that one atm.
Glad to hear it, the Shanghai fight with those neon colours and inky blacks must look gorgeous, and then the boat entry in Macau, even moody Scotland, I’ll be buying this one for sure.

I wish (and we never will), but I wish they brought out boxsets by cinematographers, the Deakins collection, I’d pay top dollar!
Can you imagine ... ( I cut it down to >90’s and there are a few I’ve not seen so will need to sort)
The Goldfinch (2018/9)
Blade Runner 2049 (2017)
Hail Caesar (2016)
Sicario (2015)
Unbroken (2014)
How to Train your Dragon 2 (2014) (Visual Consultant)
Prisoners (2013)
The Croods (2013) (Visual Consultant)
The Guardians (2012) (Visual Consultant)
Skyfall (2012)
In Time (2011)
Rango (2011) (Visual Consultant)
True Grit (Dec 2010)
How to Train your Dragon (2010) (Visual Consultant)
Company Men (2010)
A Serious Man (2009)
Doubt (2008)
The Reader (2008) (With Chris Menges)
Revolutionary Road (2008)
WALL•E (2008) (Visual Consultant)
In the Valley of Elah (2007)
No Country for old Men (2007)
The Assassination of Jesse James (2007)
Jarhead (2005)
The Village (2004)
The LadyKillers (2004)
The House of Sand and Fog (2003)
Intolerable Cruelty (2003)
Levity (2003)
A Beautiful Mind (2001)
Dinner with Friends (2001)
The Man Who Wasn’t There (2001)
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
Anywhere But Here (1999)
The Hurricane (1999)
The Siege (1998)
The Big Lebowski (1998)
Kundun (1997)
Courage Under Fire (1996)
Fargo (1996)
Dead Man Walking (1995)
The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
The Hudsucker Proxy (1994)
The Secret Garden (1993)
Passion Fish (1992)
Thunderheart (1992)
Barton Fink (1991)

Hope we do get The man who wasn’t there uhd, would look fantastic on oled.
 

Casimir Harlow

Blu-ray Reviewer
love ya'man but yesterday you were telling us Carlito's Way is a better film than Scarface and now today you are telling us blondie is the the best Bond ever? You havin' a laugh? :)
Ah I know, the truth hurts.

But what I said about Craig was that his was the definitive Bond, i.e. the closest to a definitive incarnation of Fleming's character.

The Best Bond ever? That's surely personal preference. Personally, I can see the Dalton argument but he simply didn't have enough movies to fully judge by, something which applies even more clearly in Lazenby's case. Brosnan did a masterful job at being the best of both worlds (Connery and Moore) but was unsurprisingly master of none as a result (and... DAD). And Connery may be everybody's top choice but I grew up with Moore, and always believed that his lighter way of dealing with the insanely dangerous situations he was put in was the only possible way to avoid having a heart attack at 40 (and still play the role at 80). Where Connery would grit his teeth at the most ludicrous situation, Moore would always have a gag, never better than simply grinning back at an assassin who has just revealed that he has metal teeth, or patting his pockets looking for a pencil when he's being left on a pit of crocs as has been told that's one of only two ways to kill them. The other being, to pull out all his teeth...

Craig? Well before Spectre, his Bond was at least grounded, and never more so than in Casino Royale.

Can't help you with Carlito. It's just better. Them's the facts. ;)
 

Dans1210

Well-known Member
Had to stick my oar in having read the article headline. Craig is possibly the worst bond of the bunch, even timothy dalton was more suited to the role. I can’t wait until they replace him.
Grew up loving connery and moore but brosnan was awesome in the role. Craig is neither good looking or charming, eurobond. This isn’t a knock against the quality of the films just craig in the role.

Oh and Carlitos way is better than scarface. 😜
 
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Jim Di Griz

Distinguished Member
Had to stick my oar in having read the article headline. Craig is possibly the worst bond of the bunch, even timothy dalton was more suited to the role. I can’t wait until they replace him.
Grew up loving connery and moore but brosnan was awesome in the role. Craig is neither good looking or charming, eurobond. This isn’t a knock against the quality of the films just craig in the role.

Oh and Carlitos way is better than scarface. 😜
Lazenby is easily the worst Bond and I have never understood the recent love for On Her Majesty's Skiing Service!
 

invisiblekid

Distinguished Member
Craig's one great Bond film, well I liked Skyfall, so raspberries to the haters.

But this is totally ruined by the card game's
CLANG CLANG, this is his "tell"
that was done as poorly as I've ever seen.
 

Evinger

Well-known Member
Lazenby is easily the worst Bond and I have never understood the recent love for On Her Majesty's Skiing Service!
I'm not a big fan of the Lazenby Bond, but.....Diana Rigg 😍
And the popular story of her always eating Garlic before any Love Scene with him (Blown up it seems from a chance remark she made) was great, true or not :)
But the Story itself, with Bond played by Connery would, have been great to see.
 

wolfie138

Active Member
CR is one of my fave action flicks. I grew to hate Bond's stupid cheese and this brought it right back to gritty realism. the building site chase etc were phenomenal, as is the stairwell fight. one scene I really think is a cracker though is the shower scene. A lesser script would have had the cliché "oh, you're all distraught, let's have sex" rubbish, but Bond just turning the heat up and holding her whilst still fully dressed really got me.
 

Garrett

Moderator
Had to stick my oar in having read the article headline. Craig is possibly the worst bond of the bunch, even timothy dalton was more suited to the role. I can’t wait until they replace him.
Grew up loving connery and moore but brosnan was awesome in the role. Craig is neither good looking or charming, eurobond. This isn’t a knock against the quality of the films just craig in the role.

Oh and Carlitos way is better than scarface. 😜
I can't either he started out great in Casino Royale and was sort of Dalton'ish who the Bond of the books(and for many here me inc is the best). But each follow up been worse than the last, Skyfall being the worst and Spectre that bland I can even say its bad, but had to check the name of it as it that forgettable.

As for George Lazenby although not the best Bond did not put in a bad show to say it was his first screen acting role (well you really cant class below pic as acting:))and a lot better than some with lots more experience and are get cream acting roles these days. But like Craig let the role go to his head and very quick.

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P.S. a double raspberry(and wet ones at that) to them that thinks no one else has a right to an opinion only theirs.;):laugh:
 

scrowe

Well-known Member
Ah I know, the truth hurts.

But what I said about Craig was that his was the definitive Bond, i.e. the closest to a definitive incarnation of Fleming's character.

The Best Bond ever? That's surely personal preference. Personally, I can see the Dalton argument but he simply didn't have enough movies to fully judge by, something which applies even more clearly in Lazenby's case. Brosnan did a masterful job at being the best of both worlds (Connery and Moore) but was unsurprisingly master of none as a result (and... DAD). And Connery may be everybody's top choice but I grew up with Moore, and always believed that his lighter way of dealing with the insanely dangerous situations he was put in was the only possible way to avoid having a heart attack at 40 (and still play the role at 80). Where Connery would grit his teeth at the most ludicrous situation, Moore would always have a gag, never better than simply grinning back at an assassin who has just revealed that he has metal teeth, or patting his pockets looking for a pencil when he's being left on a pit of crocs as has been told that's one of only two ways to kill them. The other being, to pull out all his teeth...

Craig? Well before Spectre, his Bond was at least grounded, and never more so than in Casino Royale.

Can't help you with Carlito. It's just better. Them's the facts. ;)
Casino Royale is no doubt a Top5 of the franchise but the template came from the only original novel Eon had not adapted from the Fleming Novels. But I don't agree that Daniel Craig is the definitive Bond, but I guess it depends if you are talking about the one defined by the by the novels or the one defined by the movies, and I think most people's yardstick is the movies.

There is nothing wrong with taking Bond to grounded gritty spy thriller, the franchise has history in From Russia and Eyes Only, but for me the Bond movie template is larger-than-life stories, characters and villains, and Bond himself is more of a superhero than gritty, troubled, jaded spy. It's accepted that Moonraker and Die Another Day went too far into fantasy, which was what prompted the following films to go back to basics. In fact Daylights was a similar move following View to a Kill.

At the time Casino Royale was put into production there was no need to subseqently go grounded, Bourne and MI and others were seen as threats, but neither were as successful as DAD at the time, and I never saw the need to try and make Bond into something else as a result. Casino Royale aside, I think all the Craig films have been poor, and I don;t think Craig as Bond gets anywhere near being the best Bond across his body of work in comparison to any of the other actors, including Lazenby.

My favourite has been Brosnan, although I get your comment about his reign. But I remember so many moments in the Brosnan films that were definitive Bond, the nonchalant flick of the head as as bullets splintered the bookcase he was sheltering behind, the vodka drinking scene waiting for the assassin, the beating up of several bouncers behind the blackened window, and simple adjusting of tie, amongst many others. I do not have in memory a single Bondian moment in any of the Craig films. And Skyfall is full of things I hate, not least of which Bond quits in a huff, and ultimately fails the mission. This is not Bond.
 

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