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Carlos Santana - Supernatural Live

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by Erling, Nov 24, 2004.

  1. Erling

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    Does anyone know if region 2 versions of the above title suffers from PAL speedup ?

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    I have the Pal version what do you mean by Pal Speed up? as my copy plays fine!

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    I'm referring to the process by which film-sourced material originally shot w/24 fps are played back at 25 fps when transferred to PAL video.

    This gives an increase in speed of about 4%, which is quite audible for the sound.

    If the Santana concert is originally shot as video there shouldn't be any problems, but if the source was film, it is virtually certain to be speeded up. It may be done either with or without pitch correction, but it will still play faster. I wouldn't want that in a music disc, so if it's the case, I'd rather get the region 1 NTSC version, which will play at the correct speed (since NTSC uses 30 fps, film is transferred in a different way than with PAL - can't speed it up from 24 to 30 fps as that would be very noticeable)

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    I don't think many concerts are recorded on film so you are pretty safe here. Although most live music is played faster than the studio version anyway, I wouldn't worry. (It sounds great in dts btw)
     
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    Faster (as in tempo), is not the same as a video transfer being sped up (causing an increase in tempo and pitch) which changes the key of the song, and is very noticable.
     
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    I certainly have not noticed this and can assure you the R2 version sounds superb in DTS.

    John :)
     
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    I can see what you mean. But in live music, unless all the musicians are perfectly in tune, it's not going to be a big deal.
     
  8. Erling

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    Thanks all for your input.

    Guess I should just go ahead and order the reg. 2 version I've found for about £ 9 :)

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    Good price and a very good Concert :thumbsup:

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