Capping off live electrical wires

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  1. markgodley

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    Our door bell packed in the other day, so bought a wireless systems.

    I plan to remove the old door bell outside and fit the other one on top.

    There's to questions i have:
    1) What do i need to cap off these old wires to make it safe?

    2) Are there any waterproof solutions to cap the wires. Whilst i'll be putting the new one over, i guess there's a chance for water to eventually make contact.

    Otherwise i guess i could just wood fill the holes.

    Cheers
     
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    Is it not possible to disconnect the connections at both ends and then pull the wiring out?
     
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    The doorbell wires will be low voltage (12 volts or less), so not dangerous. If they are fed from a transformer in (or close to) the consumer unit, disconnect the wires from there. Then you can just cut off the wires and fill the hole. It would be preferable to remove the wires entirely after you have disconnected the supply.

    If a transformer is feeding the old bell, it would also be preferable to remove the mains feed to that, as it will still be consuming electricity (albeit a tiny amount). How you do this depends on where the transformer is located and what circuit feeds it from the consumer unit.
     
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    I thought this might be the case, in that it wouldn't be the same power that goes to a normal light switch/plug socket etc.

    We have a box other side of the door where the sound comes from (where it used to do the ding dong from - technical term :p).
    Could i open this up and disconnect the wires from there that feed the door bell, then just remove the door bell and pull the wires through - i assume that would be ok (to clarify i'd keep the ding dong thing as it is and not remove it) .

    Cheers again
     
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    That would work though there is no reason why you cannot remove the bell part.
     
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    Yes, open it up and look inside. Sounds like it could be battery operated? In which case, pull the batteries and disconnect/remove the wires going to the bell push.

    You could then squirt a bit of silicon into the hole in the frame, then fit your new push where the old one used to be.
     
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    I'll have to run it past the misses as it would involve me having to repaint / tidy that section up ;)
     
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    Oh god, could this be it? Could it actually be battery operated and and not actually fed from the mains?!
     
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    YES! :rotfl:
     
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    Quite likely, pull the cover off the dinger donger :)
     
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    Technical term? :rotfl:
     
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    At the risk of posting this in the wrong thread; I'm glad I'm not the only one who has a missus like this; why oh why do they get hung up on jobs that we are going to do? Mine is absolutely adamant that we have no hole in the walls of our new home, but it'll be me that's filling them and making good, I'm not asking her to do it :laugh:
     
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    Will he need to consult with the wife before pulling the covers off the dinger donger, ooh matron.
     
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    You don't suppose....new batteries would have fixed it ?
     
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    It would of! :rotfl:

    Oh well, it gives me something else to moan at the wife about when she unplugs the new doorbell to do the hoovering :rotfl:
     
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    Top thread, cheered me right up!:clap:
     
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    So got the new door bell fitted yesterday... and yes the old one was battery operated :blush:

    There were about 4 big batteries in it, one 2 of which had swelled up and burst.

    Thanks for all the advice, much simpler than first thought.
     
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    I hope you disposed of the batteries in the appropriate recycling bin!
     
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    About 4 big batteries? Was it a little over or under 4?
     
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    99.9% sure it was exactly 4
     
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    I'd rather that than mine, who insists on calling a 'professional' for everything that needs doing.
    When we had no idea where our stopcock was, and I've still got my flat in bits when I was determined it must be somewhere, her idea was to call a plumber. Yea, as they'll obviously not spend any extra time looking in the places I've already looked.
    I called the waterboard, they dug out the outside at no charge, then I fitted my own before switching the water back on. She still insists calling a plumber would have been better!
     

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