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Capped Broadband & X Box Live

Discussion in 'Networking & NAS' started by mrmcdean, Feb 25, 2005.

  1. mrmcdean

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    A friend of mine (honest) wants to switch from dial up to broadband.

    Ive noticed quite a few broadband suppliers offering low monthly fees with caps, now my question is should my mate go for a capped service if hes going to be hammering x box live.

    I know he surfs the web but not to download files etc. but when he sits down in front of his little black box hours just slip away. I dont want to recommend a service where he has to leave within a couple of months as hes hitting the cap after hes paid setup fees.

    I know the obvious answer is to go for an uncapped service but I have no idea how much upload/download x box live takes up, is it possible to play for a long time and still come under the average cap imposed ?

    Another quick point, if he decided he could afford it, would he see any real benefit (on x box live) if he went for a 1mgb connection ??

    Many thanks
     
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    depends on a lot of factors like who with what does this ISP work like with live
    and whats the cap etc
     
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    I would seriously reckon you would need to be on xbox live 24/7 to use up most of the ISP's cap though

    Most give 15GB+ a month, and if you don't download lots of files then you shouldn't get anywhere near that limit just using the xbox
     
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    I agree the amount of info downloaded whilst playing games is pretty minimal.
     
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    I would watch out as many ISPs now set a "cap" or rather an inclusive bandwidth limit of 1gb per month.

    If you cross that 1gb limit, you just get billed some more... its a bit like inclusive minutes on a mobile phone contract.

    I personally use Force9 - check adslguide.org - they are consistanly up there at the front for most things... and have reasonaly monthly charges.

    DJ
     
  6. mrmcdean

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    Thanks for the replies everyone, I have seen some caps set at 15 - 50mgbs but the packages at the cheaper end seem to go up to 2 - 3 mgbs and im pretty sure he'd be considering that sort of pricerange.

    Ive done some comparisons and the usual suspects seem to crop up. In all honesty I think its a matter of a couple of pounds in it from one to the next but it looks as though many suppliers are going for faster connections but then placing a limit on how much you can use the service.

    Does a faster connection ie 1 - 2 mgbs seem like a fair trade for a cap of say 3 mgbs per month :confused:

    I feel like im asking questions that have no real answer but you guys have helped me alot in the past so thanks to anyone whos taken time out to pass an opinion.
     
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    IIRC AOL have a uncapped service available for £17.99pm. Don't knwo what the connection speed is thou, i'll see if i can find out for your 'mate'
     
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    cheers
     
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    right, this is what i now know:

    AOL Silver = £17.99pm, 512k/s - unlimited useage
    AOL Gold = £24.99pm, 1mb/s - unlimited useage
    AOL Platinum = £29.99, 2mb/s - unlimited useage

    All the above include the usual AOL gubbins

    personally, i'm with BT and have a (recently upgraded) 2mb connection for £24.99 :clap: on which all 'Live' games run as smooth as a babies bottom.
     
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    You've been upgraded already!!!

    I assume you must have previously been on a 1mb connection, us 512k people have to wait until March :mad: , but we are apparently going to a 2mb connection as well :clap:
     
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    Thanks for the info about AOL.

    Another dumb question for you, is the BT 2 mgb Capped ?? even if it is I assume the limits are fairly high otherwise none of you wise people would be on Live so much !!

    Cheers again.
     
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    Hmm, looks like i need to read the letters that BT write to me more carefully. It looks like i'm currently still on a 1mb and that it will be upgraded on or before March 17th :lesson: so mcdean you can partially ignore teh end of my last post :) but its still really smooth and i guess thing can't be any worse on 2mb! and no there isn't a cap, well not one that in enforced anyway.
     
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    Taken from Xbox live.....
    AOL are currently beta testing Xbox Live for AOL broadband and AOL broadband members can sign up via AOL Keyword : beta. AOL are expecting to start supporting the service for all their broadband members shortly.

    I wouldnt bother with AOL. Just go with a good BB supplier eg. Pipex, Zen, Plusnet etc etc. Have a good lokk at Adslguide.org for all the info
     
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    Thanks for all your advice guys :thumbsup:
     
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    I'd agree with the above but also look at Eclipse.
    The way things are going it looks like most ISP's will be capping sooner or later. You'll just pay for what you download and not what connection speed you have.
    As a guide I upload around 100MB for around 3hrs of gameplay on XBL.
     
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    And a question thats close to your heart Typhoon, how much Donkey Porn u can download :eek: :rotfl:

    Matt
     
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    Does this ring true at all for 512Kbps BB?

    64KBps*7200 = 460800. 7200 being 2 hours worth of seconds and the 4680800 being a little less than half a gigabyte, and assuming online gaming uses your full bandwidth. If so, if you have a 15GB cap you can play for 2 hours a day for 30 days (well, about 34 days really)
     
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    I have a 15gb cap and play PS2 online for about 6 hours a week, mostly on twisted metal, and i never go over limit!

    Though i suppose i dont use it that much!
     
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    A colleague told me today that to play XBox Live on ntlworld you need a seperate cable BB subscription @ £30 pm. Surely this cannot be right?
     
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    Yeah that's rubbish. I think they have some rip of X-Box live service that they try and con people with but it's not required.

    I have a 750k NTL connection with an X-Box, PC & 2 laptops networked to. I used to have the PS2 online as well. I just run them all through a Linksys wireless router with my XB & PC hard wired & the laptops wireless. :thumbsup:
     
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    I guess what he's getting at is the Xbox Live service NTL offer for an extra £2 a month. From their website what I see you get for your £2 a month is an extra IP address, a network hub, an extra CAT5 cable and a helpline number (that might not be in India).

    I don't pay the extra (as I have a router) and still manage to connect to most people, though I have a theory that NTL try to make it more difficult for those that don't pay, as there are some I can't connect to for love or money and NTL refuse to offer advice to me (in India).
     
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    I've never had a problem connecting to be honest and I don't pay for their "service", I just use a router as stated above.
     
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    Yeah, its a wierd one in that it just seems random as to who I can connect to and who I can't but it's always the same people that I can't connect to. When I tried to phone NTL, they refused to discuss the problem any further as soon as I mentioned Xbox and just told me to phone MS. Very unhelpful.
     
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    Aye that does sound very much like NTL.
     

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