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Canton Smart Soundbar 10 Review & Comments

JustinL

Well-known Member
Thanks for the detailed review, I have had the Soundbar for a few months now and fully agree with your ratings and conclusions. I added the wireless speakers and they add a huge presence to the system as well as a bit more bass. The news that they are adding DTS X is great. I would heartily recommend this soundbar as well although it isn't cheap!
 

Clem_Dye

Well-known Member
When connecting to the LG TV, how do you get to the bar’s menus? I have a 2019 LG TV and it’s a faff having to get to the menus on my current Yamaha soundbar. I’ve been keeping an eye on the Canton 10 and am really tempted by it, providing that I can get to its menus! The current lack of DTS:X isn’t an issue, but it’s good to see the company working towards it.

Clem
 

UMAR 3:16

Distinguished Member
Why would something buy this at the this price point for 2.1.2? Surly a Samsung Q soundbar would be a better buy?
 

JustinL

Well-known Member
When connecting to the LG TV, how do you get to the bar’s menus? I have a 2019 LG TV and it’s a faff having to get to the menus on my current Yamaha soundbar. I’ve been keeping an eye on the Canton 10 and am really tempted by it, providing that I can get to its menus! The current lack of DTS:X isn’t an issue, but it’s good to see the company working towards it.

Clem
The Arc connection on my GZ1000 gives me full menu access on the screen display. I would imagine it would be the same on your LG, just need to press m on the remote and you are able to set up everything, apart from the chromecast which is done on the the device with google home on it.
 

Steve Withers

Reviewer
There's a topic here with some discussion.

I didn't know about the tempered glass, my toddler tends to use my current bar as a drum so having second thoughts on buying this now.

@Steve Withers you mention a wall mount is available, have you seen one advertised, I can't find it?
I'll ask Canton, because although there are plenty of PR shots of the Smart 10 wall-mounted (which suggests it can be), like you I couldn't actually find a bracket advertised anywhere.
 

Steve Withers

Reviewer

Clem_Dye

Well-known Member
The ability to use a wired sub is good. Pity that there’s no 3.5mm jack to allow the sub to be powered up/down via a cabled trigger. That’s an oversight in my book.

Clem
 

KWB1

Well-known Member
I know that they have different objectives but just wandering if the Naim Muso 2 would be on another level listening to Music through it...
 

boabis

Active Member
Is object-based audio the “tone mapping” of audio?

Rather than requiring a lofty minimum standard of entry, it attempts to make the best of whatever setup you have.
 

djcla

Distinguished Member
Why would something buy this at the this price point for 2.1.2? Surly a Samsung Q soundbar would be a better buy?
I wonder this also but having not heard either it's hard to comment. I'm not sure there is anywhere you can demo the canton .
 

Clem_Dye

Well-known Member
But would eARC really be of benefit on this type of device from the audio perspective? The auto lip sync feature (if I’m recalling the eARC feature set correctly) would be a benefit, but I can’t see any other advantage. Its absence would not be an obstacle to me buying, should the occasion arise.

Clem
 

gkatz

Active Member
But would eARC really be of benefit on this type of device from the audio perspective? The auto lip sync feature (if I’m recalling the eARC feature set correctly) would be a benefit, but I can’t see any other advantage. Its absence would not be an obstacle to me buying, should the occasion arise.

Clem
this depends on your setup.
for me, I use the TVs build in player to watch remux 2160p movies and eArc from the TV to pass sound to my soundbar (atmos &dtsx) so in my case, it super critical...
on a sidenote, I dont understand why any permium soundbar in 2019 would be released without eArc just to save a few dollars in production...
 

Clem_Dye

Well-known Member
Is that because the eARC standard is still incomplete? In any event, I thought that TVs passed lossy Atmos in a DD+ container, or something like that, and I don't know of any TVs that pass DTS:X. I agree that each use case will be different, but as you'l never get true Atmos from something like the Canton 10, the true benefits of eARC will never be realised.

Clem
 

gkatz

Active Member
Is that because the eARC standard is still incomplete? In any event, I thought that TVs passed lossy Atmos in a DD+ container, or something like that, and I don't know of any TVs that pass DTS:X. I agree that each use case will be different, but as you'l never get true Atmos from something like the Canton 10, the true benefits of eARC will never be realised.

Clem
OLED TVs like the 2019 LG line up pass full bandwidth HD audio such as dolby atmos via eArc...
 

Clem_Dye

Well-known Member
Yes, I was tempted by one of the few non-OLED LG models that sports eARC earlier this year when I went for my new TV, but there was a good £200 price premium and it was a Currys-only deal, so I passed on that. I don't have the room or the inclination for a full Atmos set-up, so a soundbar will do, and if I can get lossy Atmos from the likes of Amazon Video or Netflix via standard ARC from my TV, then that will do. I only have a couple of 4K blu-rays, and standard DTS-MA or DD5.1 from those is fine for me.

Clem
 

kinggo

Member
OLED TVs like the 2019 LG line up pass full bandwidth HD audio such as dolby atmos via eArc...
True. But just like any other soundbar out there, the question is how much "sound" you can get out of it just because it supports atmos.
Soundbar as an ideas is fine. And any soundbar will most likely improve the sound. But now they started with those separate speakers and prices which nowhere near provide the same immersive audio as proper x.1 system for less money. And there are more speakers involved which somehow negate the use of soundbar in the first place.
Don't have much experience with them other than some cheapos at people homes and some more expensive as demo units in stores. But none of those expensive ones manage to convince me that it's worth over 2k of something as none of them provides nowhere near 5x "more sound" than the 500 one. The usually sound much better for music, that's true. But since that's not their primary function in my book I don't see how any of them is actually worth the money. If money is no object then fine but otherwise...
And that puzzles me with every review, they all conclude that immersive audio isn't something and yet they give 8 or 9 for over 2k product.
 

Clem_Dye

Well-known Member
Many years ago, when soundbars were in their relative infancy, I went from a full-blown 6.1 system to the Yamaha YSP4100 that I have now, along with a sub-woofer. Is the sound as good? No, of course not. Would I go back to a multi-speaker system? No. I've got past the point where I (and my wife in particular), wants the front room looking like the floor of a hi-fi store. They are a compromise for sure, but switching from a complete system to my YSP4100 hasn't reduced my enjoyment that much. Once you accept the compromises, assuming that you can of course, then a good soundbar is easy to live with. That they can't do everything that a separates system can is a given, but I don't feel deprived in any way as a result.

Clem
 

gkatz

Active Member
Many years ago, when soundbars were in their relative infancy, I went from a full-blown 6.1 system to the Yamaha YSP4100 that I have now, along with a sub-woofer. Is the sound as good? No, of course not. Would I go back to a multi-speaker system? No. I've got past the point where I (and my wife in particular), wants the front room looking like the floor of a hi-fi store. They are a compromise for sure, but switching from a complete system to my YSP4100 hasn't reduced my enjoyment that much. Once you accept the compromises, assuming that you can of course, then a good soundbar is easy to live with. That they can't do everything that a separates system can is a given, but I don't feel deprived in any way as a result.

Clem
exactly....
 

JustinL

Well-known Member
True. But just like any other soundbar out there, the question is how much "sound" you can get out of it just because it supports atmos.
Soundbar as an ideas is fine. And any soundbar will most likely improve the sound. But now they started with those separate speakers and prices which nowhere near provide the same immersive audio as proper x.1 system for less money. And there are more speakers involved which somehow negate the use of soundbar in the first place.
Don't have much experience with them other than some cheapos at people homes and some more expensive as demo units in stores. But none of those expensive ones manage to convince me that it's worth over 2k of something as none of them provides nowhere near 5x "more sound" than the 500 one. The usually sound much better for music, that's true. But since that's not their primary function in my book I don't see how any of them is actually worth the money. If money is no object then fine but otherwise...
And that puzzles me with every review, they all conclude that immersive audio isn't something and yet they give 8 or 9 for over 2k product.
You can use this analogy for most systems. Value is very vague and is very personal. Canton use their own designed speakers/drivers and specialise in speaker systems. They are coming from this perspective, most people looking at LG or Samsung bars wouldn't even have heard of Canton. The soundbar sounds excellent, far far better than the similarly priced Bose. The sound is rich and immersive. The atmos/position based audio does work to a point. I also have the rear speakers and this adds a whole new dimension. I can also add further front speakers and a sub to make a 7.1.2 system, this soundbar becomes the centre channel. I have no plans to do this presently but it's nice to know I can.
 

kinggo

Member
and then you end up with something veeery expensive and not better than AVR + speakers system but almost equally messy.
Anyway, my POV is that with soundbars point of diminishig returns is at much lover price point than with separate speakers simply because you can defy laws of physics much. Regardless of the brand.
That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. And nothing against them.
 

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