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Cant we entice harriet Harman into the Tory party?

la gran siete

Distinguished Member
I mean she is befittingly annoying enough to join that lot with her crazed rants.She is so totally embarrassing to our great party i am utterly confused as top why they ever let her in.
"TOPLESS calendars - and Page 3 photos - will be banned from workplaces under potty laws drawn up by Harriet Harman. Labour's deputy leader - dubbed Hattie Har-person by critics - claims it is harassment to put up saucy pics at work.

The small print of the Government's flagship Equalities Bill declares: "An employer who displayed any material of a sexual nature, such as a topless calendar, may be harassing employees where this makes the workplace an offensive place to work
."
 

loz

Distinguished Member
Make your mind up LGS. One minute you are pleading for equality and the rights of workers to have a decent place to work, but the next you are saying women should have to put up with being treated as sex objects at work. :confused:

I know some will see nude calendars as a bit of 'harmless fun', but they have no place really in a mixed work place do they.
They aren't works of art, just titillation.


And that's from someone who would proudly have displayed the Pirelli calendar on the wall, back in the day. But not now. I recognise times have changed.
 

Solomon Grundy

Distinguished Member
I think we should all have them up at work...it would maybe give the fatties something to aspire to and make offices all over the country a much nicer place!

"Forget your Slim fast and those daft little salad trays from Boots love, here's your motivation...phwooargh!" (point her in the direction of the Pirelli Calendar).
 

Dextur

Distinguished Member
I mean she is befittingly annoying enough to join that lot with her crazed rants.She is so totally embarrassing to our great party i am utterly confused as top why they ever let her in.
"TOPLESS calendars - and Page 3 photos - will be banned from workplaces under potty laws drawn up by Harriet Harman. Labour's deputy leader - dubbed Hattie Har-person by critics - claims it is harassment to put up saucy pics at work.

The small print of the Government's flagship Equalities Bill declares: "An employer who displayed any material of a sexual nature, such as a topless calendar, may be harassing employees where this makes the workplace an offensive place to work
."

Just out of interest I can tell you that women in general really don't appreciate them in the workplace LGS.

I think she has a point.

Not to be a prude, but imagine if you had to go in to work and pictures of half naked men were all over the place and you had women making the comparable comments about the men all day in your presence.

Would you find it massively conducive to an equal rights workplace where everybody is given the same respect?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for ze naked ladies, but I can see it from the other side of the fence as well.

Many , many eons ago when I worked in 9-5 land we had a sexy calender up in our engineering department , female staff often came in with new worksheets etc and they were all to a tee, a bit miffed about it but they predominantly kept stum for fear of being "a moaner".

As my years have progressed I've started to see it more from their side of the argument and I think it's a bit unfair.
 

Bill Hicks

Banned
In fact I think we should stop pussyfooting around and be made to display frankly pornographic images on the walls of ALL working places!
What about a plasma screen showing Shaving Ryan's privates on a loop.

Nothing like a bit of Hardcore to brighten up another boring day at the office!
 

la gran siete

Distinguished Member
No one is suggesting that pornographic pictures should be tolerated but the odd tasteful Pirelli calender seems quite harmless to me.Btw some women have pics of their favourite male stars pinned too up to altho, more likely, fully clothed.My wife has pics of Jonny Dep in her office mainly as a bit of a laugh.No one bats an eyelid , least of all me. If any one feels in secure about harmless pics then i suggest they have a problem .
I just detest HH continuing puritanical attitude .Trying to criminalize men who procure sexual services on the grounds of them "exploiting" sex workers is another area that really irks me. Instead of regulating the system so that areas of real abuse are tackled, she would rather make a blanket attack on paid for sex generally.The woman is a sour faced old prune!
 

loz

Distinguished Member
In fact I think we should stop pussyfooting around and be made to display frankly pornographic images on the walls of ALL working places!
What about a plasma screen showing Shaving Ryan's privates on a loop.

Nothing like a bit of Hardcore to brighten up another boring day at the office!

I work from home, so no problem

However, the postman sometimes gets a bit embarresed when he delivers a parcel and there's all that moaning coming from the living room
 

la gran siete

Distinguished Member
But doesn't the Pirelli calendar show foo-foo as well as bip-bops? It's one notch above topless!
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dont know , havent seen one in ages.Its not something that titillates me( although i do like arty nudes) in particular and i wouldnt have them on my wall ,but i do object to all this "moral" interfering
 

Solomon Grundy

Distinguished Member
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dont know , havent seen one in ages.Its not something that titillates me in particular

The Pirelli calendar does not titillate?!?

I smell a competition in the works...best guess as to what "titillates" LGS wins a signed Jpeg of Catweasel...get those cogs whirring people! :thumbsup:

Here is my entry...
 

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Dextur

Distinguished Member
No one is suggesting that pornographic pictures should be tolerated but the odd tasteful Pirelli calender seems quite harmless to me.

Of course it does, you're missing the point.

.My wife has pics of Jonny Dep in her office mainly as a bit of a laugh.No one bats an eyelid , least of all me. If any one feels in secure about harmless pics then i suggest they have a problem .

You see no difference between a woman bent over a car bonnent in stilletos and her tits out and a picture of Johnny Depp. It's an awful argument LGS.

The woman is a sour faced old prune!

True, but she absolutely has a point, it's not puritanical to expect Women to not have to see images of other women with their tits out and in sexually provoactive positions when they go to work.
 

la gran siete

Distinguished Member
Of course it does, you're missing the point.



You see no difference between a woman bent over a car bonnent in stilletos and her tits out and a picture of Johnny Depp. It's an awful argument LGS.



True, but she absolutely has a point, it's not puritanical to expect Women to not have to see images of other women with their tits out and in sexually provoactive positions when they go to work.
i wasnt suggesting sexually suggestive images should be tolerated in the work place but tasteful nudes to me are ok, after all we can see them on nudist beaches where overt sexual behaviour isnt normally encouraged, besides there are plenty of topless beaches with 'tits hanging out " all over the place and no one feeling particularly titilated
 

Dextur

Distinguished Member
i wasnt suggesting sexually suggestive images should be tolerated in the work place but tasteful nudes to me are ok, after all we can see them on nudist beaches where overt sexual behaviour isnt normally encouraged, besides there are plenty of topless beaches with 'tits hanging out " all over the place and no one feeling particularly titilated

You're missing the point about how it makes Women feel LGS, so called "tasteful" Pirelli calendars are ok to you., but you're not the sex Harman is suggesting has a problem with it. Honestly if you can't get it, you can't get it.
 

la gran siete

Distinguished Member
You're missing the point about how it makes Women feel LGS, so called "tasteful" Pirelli calendars are ok to you., but you're not the sex Harman is suggesting has a problem with it. Honestly if you can't get it, you can't get it.
Listen i knolw exactly what you are saying .I would ask you how ,men feel when they walk into an office with pin ups of "gorgeous"men for women to drool over.I would suggest the feelings are quite similar, even if the male ones arent particularly sexual.At the end of the day the feelings are ones of insecurity.


and, no, I am not dense!
 

Dextur

Distinguished Member
and, no, I am not dense!

I don't think you're at all dense LGS, not one bit, but I do think you're utterly unsymapathetic about the realities women have to face in the office / workplace and how images such as this only further serve to worse then situation by demeaning them.

I can't remember the last workplace I entered where a guy wearing a thong was laid over a sports car touching his crotch or chest...
 

eric pisch

Distinguished Member
i have no problems with the girls (or the boys) having calendars with oiled up hunks on them, only equality after all if boys are allowed calendars with tatty bo jangles on

I cant imagine any cooperate environment allowing it tbh anyway
 

Solomon Grundy

Distinguished Member
Normal women just tut and shrug it off...it is only dried up old prunes like Harriet Harman who make a big deal about it...in fact I bet it's just a facade and behind closed doors she's into all that Max Mosley crap!
 

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