ChrisKron
Novice Member
Hello everyone,
my old Canon HV20 Camcorder (1080 60i) has a 24p-mode which internally records 24fps, but turns them into 29.97fps and also gives out 29.97fps when transferred to the PC. So all videos I get with "HDVSplit" are 29.97fps, no matter if actually having been recorded in 24fps.
It all happens through a so called 3:2 or 2:3 pulldown. When you pause the video you see 3 full frames, then 2 interlaced (or blurry images).
I used to use a software from "Cineform" which had an option "3:2 pulldown removal" and transferred my footage with 24fps-progressive to my PC.
When I use "HDVSplit" I always get 29.97fps (as stated above), also the video is interlaced. When being played by my video player (e.g. potplayer) it displays the video accordingly (it also automatically de-interlaces), but it still states that the video is 29.97fps and interlaced.
"Handbrake" offers the filter called "de-telecine", which may be the solution. But it doesn't seem to matter if on or off. When I use de-interlace or de-telecine, I will get 4 frames, followed by a stillframe (and so on). So I compared that to a hollywood movie (24p). It had no filler-frame or choppiness...just smooth 24p. Is it impossible to get with the HV20, even though it was the selling-point?
In Adobe Premiere, when "interpreting footage", there is an option for "3:2 pulldown" or so, but it is greyed out and I cannot touch it somehow...
What would be the correct way to get TRUE 24P? De-Interlace the video? De-telecine? both? Set the destination framerate to 23.97fps? or leave at 29.97 when I also checked de-interlace? How do I even know which of my tranferred footage was recorded in 23.97fps and which in 29.97 - if HDVSplit (and other software) get you only 29.97fps anyway? Is there a way to differentiate between these two? As it is now I only can guess by the choppiness if it is supposed to be in 23.97 or not.
When working in your editing software you cannot have videos which internally may be 23.97fps but are recognized as 29.97fps (and interlaced).
My goal is to get the best quality, preferrably without much encoding processes being done. The "cineform" videos I got back in the days were around 40GB in size (compared to HDVSplit's 12GB) and around 60Mbit (HDVSplit is 25Mbit). I believe the HV20 didn't record in 60Mbit, so I wanted to capture my videos once more with HDVSplit to reduce the sizes to their original Mbits and sizes.
Also the videos are recorded in 1440x1080 (should I turn them into 1920x1080?).
Thanks for any hints on how I can solve my little problems.
my old Canon HV20 Camcorder (1080 60i) has a 24p-mode which internally records 24fps, but turns them into 29.97fps and also gives out 29.97fps when transferred to the PC. So all videos I get with "HDVSplit" are 29.97fps, no matter if actually having been recorded in 24fps.
It all happens through a so called 3:2 or 2:3 pulldown. When you pause the video you see 3 full frames, then 2 interlaced (or blurry images).
I used to use a software from "Cineform" which had an option "3:2 pulldown removal" and transferred my footage with 24fps-progressive to my PC.
When I use "HDVSplit" I always get 29.97fps (as stated above), also the video is interlaced. When being played by my video player (e.g. potplayer) it displays the video accordingly (it also automatically de-interlaces), but it still states that the video is 29.97fps and interlaced.
"Handbrake" offers the filter called "de-telecine", which may be the solution. But it doesn't seem to matter if on or off. When I use de-interlace or de-telecine, I will get 4 frames, followed by a stillframe (and so on). So I compared that to a hollywood movie (24p). It had no filler-frame or choppiness...just smooth 24p. Is it impossible to get with the HV20, even though it was the selling-point?
In Adobe Premiere, when "interpreting footage", there is an option for "3:2 pulldown" or so, but it is greyed out and I cannot touch it somehow...
What would be the correct way to get TRUE 24P? De-Interlace the video? De-telecine? both? Set the destination framerate to 23.97fps? or leave at 29.97 when I also checked de-interlace? How do I even know which of my tranferred footage was recorded in 23.97fps and which in 29.97 - if HDVSplit (and other software) get you only 29.97fps anyway? Is there a way to differentiate between these two? As it is now I only can guess by the choppiness if it is supposed to be in 23.97 or not.
When working in your editing software you cannot have videos which internally may be 23.97fps but are recognized as 29.97fps (and interlaced).
My goal is to get the best quality, preferrably without much encoding processes being done. The "cineform" videos I got back in the days were around 40GB in size (compared to HDVSplit's 12GB) and around 60Mbit (HDVSplit is 25Mbit). I believe the HV20 didn't record in 60Mbit, so I wanted to capture my videos once more with HDVSplit to reduce the sizes to their original Mbits and sizes.
Also the videos are recorded in 1440x1080 (should I turn them into 1920x1080?).
Thanks for any hints on how I can solve my little problems.