Calling all LE32R41B/D owners in the midlands....

[tjradiohead]

Im hoping that somebody in the midlands would be kind enough to let me come round and show of your set? I really want a proper demo which is something you cant get in the shops, ideally i would bring round my DVD player and xbox to give it a whirl. My Xbox is HD enabled, so if you would like to test your screen for HD tearing on 720p, then this would probably be a good time to test it?

Im just weary with regards to performance with sky and DVD via component.

There is beer in it for you!!

 

[tjradiohead]

Bump....

Anyone?

 

[Raze]

Why don't you take your DVD player into Currys? (pre-arrange it)

I did

I took my Toshiba 150e and connected it via Componant - and was very impressed!

They also let me try out the Toshiba 32 and 37" models but as there was no componant ins I had to use their cheapy scart cable - id say they were 'ok'...

 

[tjradiohead]

Did you end up buying this model then?

Ive done that before with other tv's, but the amount of nagging to buy and constantly saying "wow, that looks fantastic" just winds me up. and the setting isnt really ideal because of the strong lighting etc, would have been nice to see it in a house setting.

Thanks for the help all the same

 

[Raze]

Did you end up buying this model then?

I have it on order, and have been told its due in end of Oct ish (the 32 41BD model not the currys 51BD model as they are spec wise the same).

I wanted to see what a HQ input looked like and used very high quality leads - it was a super picture, and although I only tested the Toshiba LCDs with scart, I much prefered the sammy not only pic wise but theres so much more in the menu too. Overall it just feels like a better product and pic quality (which is the most important thing for me) was very very good!

The 'standard' I was comparing it to was the king of CRTS the toshiba 36zp and was very impressed!! In some areas it was even better!! (small detail etc) Much better than the panasonic 36" crt I just returned!

go for it u won't be dissapointed

 

[tjradiohead]

last bump of the night

 

[tjradiohead]

Bumpity Bump Bump!

 

[meepylon]

Bumpity Bump Bump!

You certainly are persistent!

 

[tjradiohead]

Yup, ill give up today. Just strange as it was easy to find somebody to show me their PHD8 plasma, which is far more rare than the samsung LCD

 

[tjradiohead]

Last bump ever....

 

[Prof]

I`ve just had a good look at the Samsung, as I was thinking of buying one. Here`s what I posted on a thread about this TV :

Well, I was going to join the list of people that are waiting for the L32R41BDX and order one. I`ve been reading good reviews on this model, and when I searched pricerunner and found that it can be purchased for <£900, I decided to go back to Comet and have a good look at one. I didn`t have to go Comet, as today, I went to a customer who had got the LE32R41B (non Freeview) model for me to tune in and setup. I set the TV up with Sky and tuned in the analogue channels. I then spent about 30 minutes adjusting the picture settings and having a good look at the "quality" of the picture. I`m sorry to say this, as I`m really trying to convince myself to go LCD, but I just can`t see why people buy these things. OK, when displaying certain images (mainly still ones, cartoons, and captions), the Samsung can provide good pictures. Most of the time,though, when watching Sky, through an RGB Scart feed, the picture is quite poor. It just looks so "digital" and artificial. Edges are handled badly and movement doesn`t look as smooth as it does on a CRT based TV. I will say that from a distance, about 15-20 feet, the LCD does look quite good. The problem is that for a 32" set, the "normal" viewing distance would be 8-12 feet, but this close the failings of LCD are all too apparent. I have seen the Samsung being demonstrated with a HD source, and it looks really good, dare I say excellent ! The thing is, we don`t yet have HD broadcasts, so my TV viewing would be done via Sky or Freeview, and the problems that I have described would be too bad to make me feel that my money was well spent. I have now decided to wait until HD broadcasts are available (at a reasonable price) and see what manufacturers can do with the next generation of flat screen TVs. In the meantime, my Samsung 28" CRT based TV, that I am looking at right now, may be 10 years old, 50Hz, and a bit "plump", but it didn`t cost me £1K and it blows away the Samsung LCD that I looked at earlier today !

Obviously, these are only my personal opinions. If you get chance to have a good look at this TV, you may still decide to buy it. I have been a TV engineer and aerial installer for over 20 years, so I have seen a lot of TVs. My advice to anyone who is interested in buying an LCD is to wait, unless you don`t mind spending quite a lot of money on something that doesn`t perform so well as "old" technology. I can`t agree with anyone who says that TV programmes look better on an LCD than on a CRT. I`m going to wait until High Definition broadcasts are available, then decide.

 

[tjradiohead]

Thats my worry really, that people are just "bigging up" this set because they have bought one on the advice here, and the set isnt actually that great.

 

[Raze]

I think the term 'old' is fitting - you were testing it with 'old' technology...

Did you hook it up to a decent DVD player? Was the Sky, sky digital (Im not sure if the old non digital sky is still around).

I'd say most LCDs and Plasmas are intended for more up to date technlogy such as hdmi or componant high quality sources. I'd guess this is where many people want the 'quality' to be? I for one want the best possible quality for DVD playback, along with HQ for consoles, and I want it to be good enough for HDTV and next gen HD-DVD players when they arrive. I'd rather spend £900 on a Samsung 32" LCD than £600-£850 on a 36" crt tv...

jmo

 

[tjradiohead]

Even if the DVD playback is not as good? There have been plenty of reports that even using an upscaling DVD player through HDMI is producing poor results.

 

[Prof]

The set that I looked at was connected to Sky Digital via RGB scart. I didn`t test it on a DVD player, but as I can`t watch BBC1 or ITV on a DVD player, I wasn`t too bothered.

HD DVD and HD Sky is not yet available (maybe HD DVD is becoming available, but isn`t established, yet), so why bother getting an LCD now ? I`m sure that when HD becomes available, LCD sets will be better and cheaper. Not a bad idea choosing a £900 LCD over a £800 CRT, but a much, much better idea would be to make do with a £250 CRT (which will usually give better PQ when watching SKY, and possibly DVD) until HD is a reality.

 

[chriszzzzzz]

Thats my worry really, that people are just "bigging up" this set because they have bought one on the advice here, and the set isnt actually that great.

Why are you reading this site then??
People on here are putting there experiences for the information of others. Personaly I am not 'bigging up' anything. The fact is that I have had no problems with the picture on my set. I have not tried Sky as I dumped that a while ago. Freeview is excellent and DVD reproduction brilliant. Even the anologue channels look good on it.
I accept that with every TV manufactured that there will be some that are faulty for some reason or another. If you can find a TV that has not had anyone complain about some aspect of it good luck to you.
The last set I had was the Samsung 308 which I certainly did not 'big up' because it had bad geometry problems. I changed it after two months for this set and am completely satisfied with it as are many other owners.
Everyone who has seen the set has commented on how good it is and two friends have purchased the same set and are both very happy with it.
I don't particularly care which set you purchase as I have nothing to gain either way..
Hope it all works out for you..

 

[tjradiohead]

There is just constantly two sides (almost in equal measure) arguing wether the quality of picture with sky is excellent, or very very poor, i just want to be able to make my mind up for myself BEFORE i buy but it doesnt look like im going to get a chance. I bought a samsung plasma a few months back, without getting a proper demo, and it just wasnt good enough, but plenty of the people on the plasma forum are happy with theirs.

 

[MWP1985]

Anyone who says the picture on this set is "very, very poor" is lying. I looked at it today in Comet and also in PC World and thought the picture was very good considering it wasn't set up properly (brightness etc). They were running it on its built-in Freeview in Comet and even standing less than a metre away it looked at least as good as my 24 inch Toshiba Widescreen CRT and I think the picture on that is pretty damn good. The colour and stability were much better on the Samsung LCD as well.

In PC World they had it connected to a PC through the VGA which is exactly what I've been waiting to see. It looked fantastic; very sharp which surprised me considering it was sharing the signal with 2 other screens and it was running at 1024x768 full-screen as opposed to the 1360x768 resolution you would use to get 1:1 pixel mapping.

I was very much set on buying this TV before today and now I'm definitely going to invest.

 

[tjradiohead]

Anyone who says the picture on this set is "very, very poor" is lying.

So im lying am i? I saw this set in comet also, showing built in freview, and thi picture WAS very very poor, although this was comet, so i am prepared to give this thread another chance, hence this thread.