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Cabling / connection questions

Discussion in 'Cables & Switches' started by stun, Jan 12, 2004.

  1. stun

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    I've put my questions into this new thread rather than the old one (http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=857756#post857756). Tried to change the first post title, but it didn't change the thread title...

    My setup includes

    Amp
    DVD
    Sky
    HDD/DVD
    TV

    Amp has component inputs from DVD and TV/DBS. Component outputs to monitor. No scarts. Numerous S-Video, etc. 1 optical output, 3 optical inputs + 1 coax output, etc, etc Phono inputs for surround.

    DVD has BNC component output. S-Video input and output. No scarts. Phono outputs for surround.

    HDD/DVD has 2 scart, 1 input svideo and 1 svideo output.

    Sky 2 scart and audio left and right.

    TV has 3 scart, 1 component input, 1 svideo. 1 digital coax and 1 optical

    A simple connection map would be useful... anyone got anything tucked up their sleeve?

    Also if I wanted to record/timeslip box office, etc do I need anything to remove protection and if so between which connection? The same question if I wanted to copy a DVD from the DVD player to the HDD... how to remove protection and between which connection would it sit?

    My DVD outputs BNC components and the Amp inputs component phono. The Amp then outputs component phono and the TV inputs component phono... is this the correct mapping?

    Do I use digital optical or digital coax or analogue or a combination? and between which boxes (DVD to Amp and Amp to TV and DVD to HDD/DVD)?
     
  2. stun

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    What if I started running everything thru the amp. Taking the best output possible from each source.

    The DVD player sends component video & digital audio, analogue L&R and 6 surround outputs to the DVD input.

    The HDD/DVD sends analogue L&R & S-Video to the Amp:VCR input. The Amp then sends the same back.

    Sky sends via scart an RGB signal to the Amp TV/DBS component inputs (scart to component lead). Audio L&R from Sky to Amp TV/DBS Audio L&R.

    Amp: Component cable from Amp monitor out to the TV component in (AV4)

    With this setup, I have no scarts connected to the TV. The AMP has NO scarts at all.

    Is component phono better quality than RGB scart?



    Questions:

    Should I stick with a component from the Amp to the TV or use a component to scart cable into AV1.

    Should I go digital optical or coaxial?

    Should I use scart from HDD/DVD to the Amp S-Video?

    Where there is a choice, should I use scart input/output rather than an S-Video cable? ie use an S-Video to Scart cable rather than an S-Video to S-Video cable.

    Should I still be able to record via the Amp to the HDD/DVD?

    How do I avoid copy protection on DVD's (the input is component).

    Is there copy protection on a SKY box office signal?
     
  3. stun

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    Why daisy chain and not run thru the Amp?

    I initially had it that way, but for some reason (that I now can't remember) I struggled to get it all working properly :-/
     
  4. Ian J

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    Running video signals through the amp will degrade them, significantly on certain amps so a purer signal is preserved by connected from source to display. In any event the connection of choice from the Digibox is RGB which most amps can't handle.

    If you wish to record to your HDD from Sky you will need to daisychain them together anyway
     
  5. stun

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    Can't daisy chain the dvd, 'cos it doesn't have scart only component, like the amp. So this means I'll end up doing some daisy chaining and some direct connection :-/
     
  6. bobbypunk

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    give in on the dvd player and use svhs-scart untill you get a tv that accepts component
     
  7. stun

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    The TV does have component...

    This is where I have got to at the moment.

    DVD > TV: Component
    DVD > Amp: Digital optical (for DVDs)
    DVD > Amp: Digital coaxial (for CDs)
    DVD > Amp: 6 channel audio
    DVD > HDD: Audio L&R
    DVD > HDD: S-Video
    HDD > Amp: Audio L&R
    HDD > Amp: Digital optical
    TV > Amp: Audio L&R
    Sky > TV: Scart to AV1
    Sky > HDD: Scart
    HDD > TV: Scart to AV3
    Amp > TV: S-Video for Amp OSD (AV2)

    Amp & DVD do not have scart! Both have at least 1 component in and out.

    When playing a CD/DVD with analogue audio, I need the HDD
    switched on, 'cos the audio is daisy chained (DVD > HDD > Amp). Obviously the analogue signal is not sent via the 2 digital cables. If I connect the DVD > Amp for the Audio L&R, then there is not way to send a signal from the DVD > HDD for audio :-/
     
  8. hornydragon

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    for Sky get an RGB>YUV converter so DVD & Sky on component and then everything else S-video, you cant get sky box to output YUV over scart needs an active converter.
     

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