Burning 360 HD-DVD 1080p Question

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  1. john_37

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    Please can somebody give me some accurate advice on this burning question once and for all.

    I have a Sony 40X2000 LCD TV. It is full HD and capable of transmitting pictures in 1080p.

    I have a 360 for which I downloaded a 1080p upgrade from Live in November.

    I am about to take possession of my 360 HD-DVD Player from SendIt.com.


    All I want to know is what I should use to connect the HD-DVD player to my Sony in order for HD-DVD films recorded in 1080p to be displayed in 1080p.

    I was in Gamestation on Chrismtas Eve and was going to by Microsofts VGA cable but they assistant told me that it would only provide 720p or 1080i and that there was no way of getting 1080p from the 360 or the 360 HD-DVD player at the moment even if my TV could display in 1080p.

    He even showed me how 1080p isn't one of the formats detailed on the VGA Cable packaging.

    Please can somebody tell me how to get a 1080p feed from my 360/360HD-DVD into my Sony LCD!?
     
  2. JamesOD

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    I use 1080p over VGA for gaming and I am sure that it will do 1080p over vga for HD-DVD as well
     
  3. jonathanTVTV

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    Your tv (I have the same one) will only give 1080p over hdmi. There is no xbox 360 hdmi cable at the moment so keeps your fingers crossed that will microsoft make one in the future.

    Be assured that the 360 hd dvd looks awesome on the 40x series at 1080i... I was blown away by the kong dvd that came with it:smashin:
     
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    They're wrong. With the VGA cable, you have the option to send 1080P.

    Not sure if your TV supports 1080P over analogue VGA though.
     
  5. jonathanTVTV

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    Very few tv's do support 1080p over vga. The Samsung f7 series does and it looks great (I had one before I returned it for an unrelated fault). The 40x doesn't I'm afraid. Like I say keep your eyes peeled for an hdmi solution.
     
  6. john_37

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    Guys,

    I really appreciate your feedback but Microsoft completely confuse me.

    Why develop a 1080p update for the 360 when so few TVs accept a 1080p feed via VGA? Why doesn't a forward thinking company like Microsoft acknowledge the initial shortcomings of their flagship console by introducing a HDMI cable?

    It seems almost unfathomable to me that an organisation with the size and expertise of Microsoft could produce a next generation console that doesn't transmit via HDMI. It's quite incredible really, it's not even as if they have some 'BlueRay'/'HD-DVD' gripe to grind.... HDMI is universally accepted without competition so why not provide a 1080p capable HDMI cable for the 360!?
     
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    You could ask the tv manufacturers, eg Sony why develop a a 1080P £1500 TV than cannot do 1080P over VGA which a £600 PC monitor can.. Alot of people use the 360 on PC monitors, eg Dell 2407, which support 1080P.., also as of yet they don't support 1 to 1 pixel mapping...

    You could return your TV saying that it does not support 1080P over VGA, as it was advertised as supporting 1080P but you were not told/stated that it was only for the HDMI connector..
     
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    Does the dell monitor support 1 to 1 pixel mapping?
     
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    My 2405 does so it should.

    :smoke:
     
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    One simple reason MS doesn't 'yet' support HDMI.. licensing costs.... it would bump up the price of the console
     
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    Don't worry about the 1080i / 1080p issue until Microsoft fixes the bloody stupid dashboard feature that refues to let the XBOX be set to 50Hz output :mad: :mad:

    The stuttering of slowly panned images is far far more frustrating to me than any, invisible to me, interlacing artefacts!!
     
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    Won't you still get stuttering at 50hz too though? I thought the movies were encoded at 24fps on HD discs.
     
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    2405 supports 1:1 mapping of 1080p.

    2407 does not support 1:1 mapping with 1080p (component) or 1920x1080 (vga/dvi), instead it stretches it fill the screen. Dell are aware of the problem and are not going to fix it as they do not consider it to be a fault.
     
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    cw2k,

    I wasn't aware of that. Good job I didn't "upgrade" to the 2407 then :eek: .

    :smoke:
     
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    The reason why there is no HDMI now or in the future is that the internal 360 GPU does not have the necessary support.

    Time to market is more important to M$.

    So can if vga does not support 1080p can composite?

    If so does it support 24 fps so I can avoid 3:2 tear down?

    I just need to check if my pioneer 42xd accepts 1024/24fps over composite.
     
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    My TV does 1080p through the VGA socket and comparing 720p to 1080p on both games and using the HD DD drive theres really not that much of a difference, ok 1080p is more detailed but its not a huge difference, certainly not as much as I was expecting.

    I really cant see M$ providing an HDMI cable for the 360, theres simply not that many people who could use it yet so it wont be cost effective for them.
     
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    Most decent screens will de-interlace the 1080i to 1080p internally (some better than others...) so the if your waiting for a different picture your looking in the wrong place...just because your screen 'can' show 1080p doesnt mean your screen is the dogs danglies...
     
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    My screen is far from the "dogs dangles" but it can be had for the bargain price of just over £800, a fraction of the cost of many 720p screens currently available.
     

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