Question building first home cinema advice needed

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  1. Szykas

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    Hello all, after long days spent on various forums by reading about home theather I decided to register at this and ask experienced people for advice.
    I live in IE and I am forced to buy home theatre on-line stores because there is no audio shops in Dublin. I have no chance to listen something live in shop.
    I would like to buy a home cinema which is being offered at 60% music, 30% of the films, and 10% of the ps3. I listen a trance, techno, (Armin, Tiesto, Calvin), sometimes hip hop, pop. Room in which cinema will have 6.2x3.8m. Photo http://wrzucaj.net/images/2015/06/11/pokoj.jpg
    I read a lot and looked around but it's really hard to choose something without advice.
    I can spend 1000 euro at the moment so I probably have to buy amplifier and front speakers first and centre and back speakers in the future.
    I selected some of the speakers Q acoustics 3050i, Monitor Bronze bx5, Wharfedale 230 and amplifiers Denon x2100, Yamaha 677, Sony strdn 1050.
    Would any of them be good for my type of music?
    Would you suggest anything different for my type of music?
     
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    Seriously nobody can help me? I am really dissapointed :(
     
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    I believe yamaha might be more suitable for music although i could be wrong and the denon has bluetooth and internet radio, don't know if thats important to you.
     
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    I use Yamaha both at home and for installs
     
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    thanks for your reply, yes I was in hifinut yesterday and they couldnt do demo for me, I have to make an appointment however thay have only sony strdn1050 in stock with q acoustics 3050i to demonstrate and this is not really what I am looking for unless it is worth to have a look?
    Yamaha is at good price now because it is dicsontinued
    http://euro.richersounds.ie/p-200624-rxv677.aspx
    so I was considering it with Q acoustics 3050i
    http://euro.richersounds.ie/p-201185-3050.aspx
    but my main consideration is about the bass, in my type of music its nice to have deep and long bass.
     
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    I didnt know the 677 was discontinued as fairly new model, so id definitely get one of those

    Focal are our models of choice but maybe a bit pricey
     
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    yes focals are a bit pricey for me at the moment, would you recommend any floorstanding speakers up to 700 euro which generate good sound and bass?
     
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    Let me have a think or see what we can do on Focals.

    Realised i did know that the 677 was discontinued as new HDCP 2.2 models are being released, oh dear UHD/4K is a minefield
     
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    The Utopia Grande EM - Black are on special with 25% off , pity RRP is £145,000

    Let me have a proper look tomorrow
     
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    thanks for your help, I probably models of Yamaha but this is why I asked question here,I think Focals would be more for audiophiles than just normal person starting with first system... looks like I wont get any useful information cheers
     
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    Not sure why you would say that about Focals, they have very good lower level models. I was only joking.
     
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    noticed that anyway I might have a look on klipsch rf62 II
     
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    Will still post a price on Focals for you tomorrow as beat the Klipsch hands down
     
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    Re your room can the bookcase move - it's going to limit you in terms of loudspeaker placement.

    Will you be wall mounting the TV.

    How about neighbours - if you have anyone below you a Sub/Full range speaker pounding out loud bass could be an issue.

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    Bookcase will move bit I am not sure about the TV as it is plasterboard wall so depends if it hold it but if I manage to do it I put it on the wall. Unfortunately I have neighbours below.
    I was actually thinking about neighbours so I would probably setup 5.0 without subwoofer this is why I would like to buy front speakers with good bass however I want to buy amplifier and fronts first because I don't have more budget
     
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    Hmmm having more bass from the front will work great for music if that's your taste, not so good for film. What's your floor made of?
     
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    Also a good bassy speaker will have no issue troubling the neighbours in full flight.
     
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    Plasterboard - will be onto some form of timber frame so easy enough to prep it to take a TV/Wall bracket + Front LCR speakers.

    I would stick with a Sub/Sat system - that way you have more options in terms of limiting the bass Output some or all of the time.

    Use the Dolby 5.1 Layout guide to find the ideal positioning for your Front LCR - Surrounds.

    Try and keep the Sub on the front wall and away from the corners.

    Most AVR's have a nighttime mode which limits the dynamic range of the signal going to the Sub whiteout messing up the Front LCR and Surrounds.

    For Music some Sat/Subs are better for music than others.

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    My floor is made of floor wooden panels. I am trying to find compromise between music and films. I will use it more for music and I am not audiophile so I am not looking for something exceptional.

    I can resign floorstanding speakers - my wife will be happy because she things they are to big for the room but I wouldn't have a clue what to buy. Would you recommend any set of speakers and avr?
     
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    I had a look and I found deals on yamaha v677 with monitor audio mass 5.1 or q acoustics 2000 5.1.
    Would you recommend any of them they are in the same price.
     
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    I like monitor audio a lot. I prefer the synergy of Integra (Onkyo) amplification. If you said small and good for music it would be MA Apex and Arcam but I understand it's not within your budget. It's all subjective really some clients love certain things others don't. I also like the look and comparative performance of the soundframe range. It depends how discerning you are sound wise and how you can manipulate your budget.
     
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    Where Music rather than Movies is the focus I would go with the best 2.1 System your budget will allow - it will also involve less installation costs and potentially be a better fit with your room.

    Look at the Yamaha A-S501 or A-S701 - great sounding 2-Ch Amps with Digital Input and Sub Out.

    A-S701 - Yamaha - UK and Ireland

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    After weighing all the pros and cons, size of the room, the presence of a child which does not allow me to go crazy with the music and the opinion of my wife who preferred the smaller speakers from bigger and neighbours I chosen a set of Yamaha 677 with q acoustics 2000i. Richer Sounds
    I hope I will not regret it. I'm not audiophile and if will need more I can always change it in the future
     

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