BT trialling 4K Broadcasts through Fibre

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    1. hodg100

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      Excellent news for those who are looking to make the leap to a 4K TV over the coming year - I doubt Sky will be that far behind them ...
       
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      Wonder if this is another reason to go 4K LED rather than wait for 4K OLED which looks like years before a 65" is going to be hassle free and under £5k
       
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      I would be more impressed if they concentrated on the majority of their customers who can't even get a decent speed let alone Infinity.
       
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      As I understood the majority of the countries population now has access to infinity fibre. Whether the speed is fully there yet is another question.
       
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      cant see bt fibre ever being hooked up to my home. There copper comes to me via telegraph Pole. On there post code checker there are no plans to fibre the area. So thats at least 1 customer off the list :(
       
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      Huge areas if the country still need fibre, IMO this will take some years.
       
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      No technical details though, does anyone have them?
       
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      Would be nice just to have our exchange upgraded to fibre so we can get more than the 4.5-5 meg we have now over copper. No rollout even planned yet we are a village near a decent size town, just 10 miles from York, off a main A road. Can't see this being of interest for a while yet.
       
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      Do they have the broadcast equipment in place then to deliver the 4K streams for live sport? Do they use the same cameras etc as they do now? For me if 1080p isn't mainstream unless heavily compressed how can they offer a 'good' 4k service?
       
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      I doubt BT will be too worried about that and will want to get their 4k product to market before Sky - as that is who they seem to be facing off with right now ... this move won't affect their rollout plans.

      When you consider Virgin and their coverage (or lack of) BT aren't doing too badly - my small town exchange has just been upgraded to fibre so it is a fair bet they will get around to a fair percentage of the population quite swiftly.
       
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      I wonder where ISP review's 2Mbps figure came from, mine has never dropped below 21Mbps and max's out at 75.

      And where are these "huge areas" without fibre?
      Are we talking geographical areas with very little housing?
      OFCOM's map shows most of the country as fibre'd now..
       
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      It could be good for consumers if BT put up some serious competition to sky, in theory we could see a price war.

      Although with on demand online services taking off fast, its probably a little too little too late.
       
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      For all the poor folks on here with slow/non-existent broadband it might be worth looking to see if you would be part of BTs non commercial roll out. The project is called BDUK and is part European and part UK tax payer funded. Aim is for 2Mb/s but I am sure that will increase soon :) You can see more on here: Broadband Delivery UK - Detailed guidance - GOV.UK
       
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      BT won't lay fibre to street cabinets where it isn't commercially viable i.e. where the cabinet doesn't service enough lines. So although OFCOM's map may show large swaths of the country fibre'd up, the devil's in the details. You get some housing developments where half the people can get fibre and the other half can't just because they're wired up to a "non-viable" box.
       
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      On the OFCOM website my postcode shows that fibre is available which is wrong. All of the addresses in my postcode are licked to a cabinet which is not on any plan to update to fibre. I really question these coverage numbers!
       
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      From OFCOMs website-

      "Some 58 per cent of addresses are in areas served by a superfast broadband enabled telephone exchange or cable network. Typically 80-90 per cent of lines attached to a superfast broadband enabled telephone exchange are currently able to subscribe to a superfast broadband service."

      This is as of Oct 2013 so the total will now be higher.

      We need to get away from this unscientific, I can't get in my street so no one else can, attitude.

      I'm not saying there aren't a few mistakes in the data but the map is largely accurate and shows that rollout is directly proportional to population density.
       
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      Hmm - Seems I poked the bear.....
       
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      Hope BT might license Virgin to take their 4K broadcasts, since Virgin offers a good 120 - soon to be 150mB/s. I have both BT fibre and Virgin fibre in my area but Virgin is far faster, as BT is still copper from the pole, whereas Virgin is fibre and coax - all underground, of course.
       
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      @vism - Erm, i think you will find that this is very inaccurate. I live in a town with well over a 10k population. BT engineers had completed ALL needed work in Jan 2013 (i know because i stopped and asked them) yet BT has no info on when it will be actually switched on. They have monopolised all of the governments (ie: our) money for the roll-outs and are doing nothing to get fibre to those who don't have it. They need to get their act together.
       
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      There could be a million reasons why your not switched on, only BT can answer that.
      The OFCOM page has a downloadable postcode level doc (bottom right). What does it say for yours?

      Fixed Broadband Map 2012

      I believe that getting 2 thirds of the country on fibre was at BT's expense. The money you refer to is a government grant to get us up to 90% by 2016/7.
       
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      I think that is highly dubious myself

      The only way I can explain it is that any typical exchange services an area of x square miles. As long as that exchange is upgraded to fibre , then according to Ofcom every one of those houses counts as fibre is available whether or not OpenReach have thought it viable to actually connect the cabinets in said areas
       
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      I'm not sure but I think OFCOM's rule is that upwards of 80% of the cabinets have to be fibre capable before the exchange is classed as fibre'd.
       
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      I think BT already hitted at the soft corner of sky networking through winning bid of all football broadcasting rights now, 4K channel will be an absolute challenge for sky BUT, sky has far bigger pool of TV viewers than BT.

      BT can possible increase its BT broadband sale but sky can catch-up throwing a better deal for 4k packages to its customers.

      BT is based in UK only and Sky has very strong base in European market.

      Virgin remains mainly for its broadband packages only....
       
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      The question should be WHY?? most people cant tell the difference between 720p and 1080p anyway. 4k is even more of a gimmick.....
       
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      On a 65inch TV (like mine) I beg to differ :)
       
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      Thats not a true, I had a sony LED HD 720p tv and I recently bought 60la860. I can confirm that there is a major difference in picture quality.... I have been to curry's for many times, 4k picture quality is absolute amazing.

      If picture quality isnt good for you. you better say with black and white tvs
       

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