Ed Selley
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I thought the Russel K speakers and the wilson benesch? Set ups were very impressive.
The arcam and kef combo in the big demo room was superb, and showed off how a big system with plenty of power can sound.
Show has gotten boring for me, I'm an AV fan and it's still called "Sound and vision" but is lacking. More video and AV demos are needed. I didn't go this year for that reason (and many of my friends who are AV fans feel the same). It's the first time in about 10 years I've not gone and unless that changes, I won't bother next year either. Don't know how others feel?
The Arcam review was impressive I remember it. Video doesn't need to take up so much though. Where are all the TV manufacturers showing their wares?In a way, AV needs more room to setup and demo(talking about venue per se)and maybe could be an actual separate event due to the difference in electronics. Arcam did an impressive setup last year and that required a considerably large setup. Many of the systems displayed had to be set about in smaller, overcrowded rooms and I just don't think they'd get a decent putting there.
The Arcam review was impressive I remember it. Video doesn't need to take up so much though. Where are all the TV manufacturers showing their wares?
They did used to have more AV though, I don't think the room needs to be large to accommodate. I've seen nice smaller set ups.The Arcam review was impressive I remember it. Video doesn't need to take up so much though. Where are all the TV manufacturers showing their wares?
You could do that for all the displays though to a point. I appreciate that's how its evolving, but its put off a lot of previous visitors..They used to do a show at Earls Court, but I think the acoustic setups were poor in such a large hall. Maybe you're expected to read reviews and find a willing demo room yourself.
He was even happier when I told him London Grammar have a new album coming out.Went again down from London and same as last year, I thought the Canton room had the best "Real World" setup and ably demoed by "That German Guy". Good selection of music and interesting introductions to what to listen for. But at around £6000 for the setup being played......I'll be out doing some serious overtime or listening with out a kidney!!
Show has gotten boring for me, I'm an AV fan and it's still called "Sound and vision" but is lacking. More video and AV demos are needed. I didn't go this year for that reason (and many of my friends who are AV fans feel the same). It's the first time in about 10 years I've not gone and unless that changes, I won't bother next year either. Don't know how others feel?
Good know I'm not the only one! I don't think you have to have a demo the size of the Arcam one.. The Yamaha room used to demo AV and that's not that big a room. It'd be pretty easy to demo a couple of amps and a decent screen I would think. There are some small rooms set up with surround there. Hopefully they will address this as a lot of potential buyers are staying away I feel.I agree, firstly I work for PMC, so I can't talk about that, I have been going for 17 years firstly as a AV guy and now with my company and I have been talking about doing a Arcam type room for a long time, it's difficult as it is very costly not only to exhibit but the logistics and man power involved in doing it properly.
I 100% agree and I'm sure the fact that the market has changed so much for what people buy now has also made it less attractive for manufacturers.
I'm a AV guy at heart and I also want to encourage this from inside our industry.
Let's hope more people start buying real AV kit again and maybe it can happen
I thought it was somewhat underwhelming. They played the same track at 320, CD (1411) and then Bluesound. It could have been the listening environment, however the difference was not earth shattering.Did anyone listen to the demos from Bluesound?