Brexit extension, onto a GE

Who will you vote for next GE.

  • Conservative

    Votes: 24 30.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 6 7.7%
  • Lib Dem

    Votes: 23 29.5%
  • TBP

    Votes: 4 5.1%
  • Others

    Votes: 4 5.1%
  • Con/TBP , wink wink.

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • Lab/Lib, wink wink .

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 5 6.4%
  • Bugger all of them .

    Votes: 4 5.1%

  • Total voters
    78
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raduv1

Distinguished Member
Don't panic , oh this is P&E so continue to panic . So if Boris does not deliver on Brexit and his own party don't flush him out for not doing so . Well then only a GE would resolve this stalemate would it not ? As such I've created a lil mischievous poll based off forum disscussions over various threads .

Trying to limit options but will add more if need be.

Mods feel free to delete if thread to similar to others.

If I've fudge it up , well all you Muppets will rag on me anyway :D.

Have fun and enjoy ......ha !
 

IronGiant

Moderator
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With ultimate power comes ultimate resposibility. Must resist... :)
 

IronGiant

Moderator
Seriously, just so we are clear, we are assuming that 31st October comes and goes and we haven't left? I'll probably vote for my current MP that is doing a very good job for her constituents. Even though she is a Lib Dem.
 

raduv1

Distinguished Member
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With ultimate power comes ultimate resposibility. Must resist... :)
Got no problem with that , my reckoning was of the withdrawl not getting through the HoC. In polling we now have a four party system as it stands . As such only a coalition would get a majority at the next GE .

As I said , feel free to close it mate if crossing over with other threads.
 

raduv1

Distinguished Member
Seriously, just so we are clear, we are assuming that 31st October comes and goes and we haven't left? I'll probably vote for my current MP that is doing a very good job for her constituents. Even though she is a Lib Dem.
It is based of that date or indeed Boris calling an election before that date . Either would mean we have not passed the withdrawl through the HoC .

As such there is a touch of what if ? About it.
 
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krish

Distinguished Member
I'll vote Lib Dem which won't make a difference in my safe Tory constituency (next door to Johnson's), but is still of statistical value to their popular vote.

Might have gone Tory had the only sensible adult, Stewart, won the leadership, but they're now as fudgeed as Labour in my eyes, especially with the just announced crash out propaganda leaflet drop and ad campaign ... as dodgy as the Cameron govt's Brexit leaflet, imo.
 

Delvey

Distinguished Member
Who is to say the EU will agree to an extension?
Come the 31st October, we face the deal (which the EU have said numerous times now will not he changed) that has been votes down 3 times now, or no deal.
My local constituency voted to leave, my current MP has voted down the deal. If Brexit isn't delivered come the next GE, I will vote for another person who wants to deliver what the constituents want
 

EarthRod

Distinguished Member
What Brexit extension?

What general election?

...Oh, I see, this is purely conjecture, dip the toe in and test the water.
 

psikey

Well-known Member
Not many votesin here, but still looking like more votes for leave supporting options so nothing changed.

Notice poll showing a 10 point boost for conservatives since Boris took over and planning for leave (mostly from Brexit Party switch). Also shows if Labour kick out Corbyn they would go into lead.

If there is a GE I still think it would be close but Con/Brex would come out on top if both sides plan strategically to maximise seats.

Report this morning from Oliver Letwin that he is accepting he may not be able to stop Brexit now.
 

weaviemx5

Distinguished Member
Not many votesin here, but still looking like more votes for leave supporting options so nothing changed.

Notice poll showing a 10 point boost for conservatives since Boris took over and planning for leave (mostly from Brexit Party switch). Also shows if Labour kick out Corbyn they would go into lead.

If there is a GE I still think it would be close but Con/Brex would come out on top if both sides plan strategically to maximise seats.

Report this morning from Oliver Letwin that he is accepting he may not be able to stop Brexit now.
There are currently 3 votes for Conservative and 5 for LiBDem. The Con/TBP option doesn’t exist outside of people’s heads, and Johnson has already (at the moment at least) ruled out a deal with Farage.

As much as it’s a theoretical vote here, voting for an option that isn’t currently viable doesn’t seem too realistic.
 

IronGiant

Moderator
Before you get too carried away, my LibDem vote wasn't a vote for Remain :D
 

Panavision

Active Member
Since Johnson is on an urgent political campaign around the country, it does feel like that we are heading towards a GE.

Lib Dems are clear about their goal. To stay in the EU.
Tories are mainly for leaving.
Labour? Who knows, but they seem to be gunning for a second referendum if there is a deal.

If there is a GE, I think it might be a Lab/Lib Dem coalition. I hope not. I'd rather it was Lib Dem, even though I dislike the political union bit of the EU. I do like the Single Market access and the trade coalition bit, though.

I have noticed revisionist commentary by some Tories that No deal was part of the Leave EU campaign. It wasn't.
Leaving the EU with a deal is imperative for everyone.

I'd like a second vote after we have secured a deal.
The people have a right to change their mind now they know what it means for the Union.
 

psikey

Well-known Member
There are currently 3 votes for Conservative and 5 for LiBDem. The Con/TBP option doesn’t exist outside of people’s heads, and Johnson has already (at the moment at least) ruled out a deal with Farage.

As much as it’s a theoretical vote here, voting for an option that isn’t currently viable doesn’t seem too realistic.
In that case they would all be Conservative then :rolleyes:. I've put mine to Conservative (Brexit) now. But TBP if Boris doesn't come through and there is a GE.

So at time of this post, 9 for Brexit parties and 7 for Remain parties.
 

Greg Hook

Moderator & Reviewer
Right now I'd vote Lib Dem.
I can't vote Tory and whilst Corbyn is in charge there is no chance of voting Labour.

If Corbyn left and someone with some skill and charisma came in to rejuvenate the party, then I'd easily switch to Labour.
 

psikey

Well-known Member
Right now I'd vote Lib Dem.
I can't vote Tory and whilst Corbyn is in charge there is no chance of voting Labour.

If Corbyn left and someone with some skill and charisma came in to rejuvenate the party, then I'd easily switch to Labour.
Get Brexit done*, get rid of Corbyn and get Labour back to a centre left party reversing what Ed Miliband did by giving more power to members over the labour MP's (and break links to Unions too) and I'm sure many people will consider Labour again.

Lets get money/bribes out of politics making realistic parties being Tax Payer funded. Can you imagine a Labour championing socialist values without fanatic members or meddling power mad union leaders..... just socialist MP's voted by the electorate.

* Unless EU massively changes in next 90 days to abandon its federalist moves and go back to a trading block of friendly sovereign European nations.
 

Sonic67

Distinguished Member
The Con/TBP option doesn’t exist outside of people’s heads,
Neither does this "GE."

I put Con/TBP as, if there is a General election at any point in the future, and we haven't left, then it's down to whoever is most likely to actually deliver brexit, but dependent on when the GE actually is and whether we have actually left or look like we are.

I.e. it's all make believe at the moment.
 

Cliff

Distinguished Member
If there is a GE it will be after 31st. The Government will call for it to get more seats in Parliament, for two reasons. Either we couldn’t get out of the EU, so they need and bank on the country electing more brexiteers, or we are out of the EU but the government still has a very small majority and gambles it can it increase it after a GE.
 

Cliff

Distinguished Member
And who would replace JC? Because the party is fractured any new leader would be seen as seizing power from other groups.
Tom Watson- good in condemning anti semitism. Bad- in joining marches for a people’s vote and recently unapologetic as a cheer leader for fantasist “Nick”.
Emily Thornburry - just no!
Kier Starmer- A proper remainer and cleverer than the rest. But might alienate the “proper” labour voters.
 

blackrod

Active Member
I could see myself voting for a Starmer led Labour party and maybe a Watson led one but Thornbury would be a big no-no.
 

Squiffy

Distinguished Member
Kier Starmer- A proper remainer and cleverer than the rest. But might alienate the “proper” labour voters.
He is a charisma free zone. Not a very good performer giving speeches, and very wooden on TV. It's harsh but true that a leader needs more than to be clever.

Hilary Benn is someone I respect, even if a hard line remainer.
 

Demon Luci

Well-known Member
In Scotland it’s pretty much Tories (and a bit of Lib Dems) vs the SNP these days. Labour are dying here and have no chance of a revival until that muppet Corbyn finally gets the hint.

Therefore it’s Conservative for me even though they’re pretty useless just now. Doing it for Ruth...
 

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