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Brand New Panasonic AE900 Review, with photos.

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by n0s, Oct 23, 2005.

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    looks v.good, apart from the noisy picture :(

    how much would the screen drop by at max lens shift when mounted 7inches from ceiling and 3 metres from screen?
     
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    Another postive review of the Pt-AE900. Z4 or AE900 really is a tough choice. I wish there was a clearer winner. Interesting that AVBUZZ has reviewed the HS60. I wonder when that will be available in the Uk??
     
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    Wondering that also, got a buyer for my Z2, and want to see how this ones runs before making a decision on what i'm going to go for next.
     
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    Well, considering Deano-B's experience of Panasonic's customer service in regard to getting his pj repaired, I know which one I would choose.


    T.
     
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    Hve they reviewed the ae700? interested in the D65 calibration and filter comments
     
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    Interesting that, of the two demos of the AE900 I did on Sat, both went away with one despite comparing it to the slightly cheaper + 3 yr warranty Z4.

    Did look very, very nice.
     
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    Whats the retail price of an AE900, about £800-900?

    I know when I used to work in AV we had the AE300 in, and our retail price was £1599, but trade was something like £800.

    The worst mark ups are Pioneer, who I think add 45% or maybe 50%, for plasmas certainly.
     
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    I can assure you the trade price of an AE300 was never anywhere near 800 mate!

    The 900 is 1299

    Pioneer - Lucky if you can turn a profit on those things ATM!
     
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    100% markup! - you sure?! :eek:
     
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    Wouldn't it have been funny if Benji agreed to that statement :rotfl: :D :rotfl: Thank god he didn't, this thread would have gone on forever!! :D
     
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    :D
     
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    Hi Ben.
    Did you set up the Hitachi TX200 yet? If so, what were your impressions compared to the AE900 and the Z4?
    Cheers, Rob. :smashin:
     
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    Hi Rob :)

    The TX200 (from the quick look I had) was impressive straight out of the box. It's a detailed, clean picture. I must say it reminded me a little of the HS50. I have high hopes for it, as it's some way cheaper than the competition.

    Also i'm not quite sure how panny have done this but the pixel grid structure on the 900 is almost invisible even from a foot away from the screen, perhaps a further enhancement on smoothscreen. Whatever and however it looks like a class act.

    I haven't had a good chance to play with the Z4 yet in any meaningful way yet, but I'm actually looking forward to going in early to work tomorrow! :suicide:
     
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    I'm pretty sure it was. I remember being quite distgusted when I found out how much profit there was being made on these already very expensive items.

    Mind you, I was only a lowly sales assistant, so I had zero power to do anything about prices, I would price match other stores, knowing that other retailers had better deals than us however.
    The sales margins for Sony were much tighter, (as to be expected).

    Panasonic plasmas were another disgrace imo, again like Pioneer huge profits in the plasma game. I can't be exact on the prices, but from memory, when I left in 2003 our price for the PW6 was something like £3149, and trade was something like £2000 approx.

    I just wonder if the same applies all over the EU, Germany seems to get good price deals. UK retailers could afford to sell them cheaper by a fair margin, but obviously in the retail sector, the aim is to make profit and if people will pay it, why not charge it?
     
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    the ae300 at the end of it's run went for about 800 some places
     
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    Thanks fluffy bunny - i suspected that you were telling the truth in this matter. Given the explanation and figures you have given I can only believe what you say. Amazing and this explains why things are on average much much cheaper in Germany and other countries where the consumer is king.
     
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    fluffy has explained that he worked in retail and is an insider with privy to trade pricing information. he has then supplied that information to us.

    the item mentioned was bought in for £800 and sold for £1599 at the place he worked at.

    thats a rip off.

    :eek:
     
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    ROne

    When CKL talks about "no blinking effect from the Auto Iris" in his AE900 review, is that the same thing you were seeing on the Z4 that you were so shocked about?
     
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    No.

    The Z4 exhibits too much close down in dim scenes, though this is dependent on the preset.

    Dynamic Iris's just don't make any sense to me unless they are completely transparent.

    Where they seem to fail, is if you have a bright portion in the screen (say 5% of the area) and the rest is dark, the iris closes down to suit the dark portion too much so you end up with a really dim bright portion, if you see what I mean!
     
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    I note in that review that all Contrast ratio results were made with high lamp? Having not heard the Ae900, is this not too loud?
     
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    he did mention that he could hear the projector while sat near it so I guess it does make some noise.

    He also said that at D65 it was nearly 75% brighter than the Z4 so this could be related too.
     
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    Fluffy said he was "pretty sure". He also didn't say at what point in the product life it was bought in for £800.

    I'm sure if that was the case there would have been a line of dealers a mile long selling it for a LOT less. No one would have bought it at £1599 if they'd done even two minutes of price checking.

    Sorry - I just don't think that jives with reality. :thumbsdow

    dunamis
     
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    Let's just put an end to this before Sainhalo goes off on one ;)

    I'm not calling fluffybunny a liar but:

    I have access to the most detailed trade pricing information for Panasonic, I know what Pana dealers doing < 1/2 million 1/2-1 million 1-2 million and higher get terms and margin wise.

    AT NO POINT HAS A PANASONIC DEALER EVER MADE THAT MUCH ON ANY CURRENT PRODUCT.

    Dealers were selling the AE300 for trade price for most of it's life, sorry to disappoint you Sainthalo, but it's the truth.

    If unbeatable were making such exorbitant markups even a monkey could have kept the compant afloat, as it was, they were making losses and went bust.

    Please fluffybunny, for the sake of forum harmony don't get Sainthalo going. It'll end in tears and bans.
     
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    lol you still "bite", I could see what was going to happen :devil:
     
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    Stop before you make a fool of yourself. If you want me to reveal the trade price for the PTAE300 (it's still on the Pana B2b) system I will.
     
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    Anim, yes, unfortunately I couldn't stop myself :suicide: . If the consumer only knew what margins retailers work on they would probably be more sympathetic!

    It's just another blatent untruth that will be pickup up on by Sainthalo, and if you think the PJ forum is fractious at the moment just wait til he takes it over to 'the biggest problem facing the a/v industry' thread :eek:

    Although on the bright side, the frustration and anger caused by Sainthalo has really motivated me at the gym :clap:

    Thanks to you Sainthalo, mate, I've lost 3 pounds last week :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
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    Until you read my posts properly its you who is looking as you suggest.
     
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    Sainthalo, if back when the Ae300 was current, you opened a Panasonic dealer called, lets say, Sainthalo's A/V Palace. You hear about the new shiny AE300 that everyone wants, you order one.

    The invoice comes, please pay £1528 + VAT.

    100% true.
     
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    Fluffy bunny has done nothing which warrants his integrity being questioned so you may wish to edit out your posts since they suggest otherwise. Since the prices you post contradict his I can only assume that there is an error somewhere. It may be Fluffys memory, it may be that you have not given a trade discount price, it may be that Fuffy's store got a better discount than you. Lying/untruth comments should be the last port of call in expaining the discrepency.

    Also anyone can read this thread and see you are being unnecessarily aggressive in your posts to me. This is an offence that a member can be warned for. I assume this applies to forum sponsors as well.
     

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