Blu-Ray Playback SDTV Black+White/Green (Help!)

chrispayne47

Standard Member
Long time reader, first time poster. Sorry if this has been brought up before, I tried a good search and couldn't find it if it had.......

Basically for the moment (until the funds come in to upgrade to a nice HD set) I am running the ps3 off a standard 29" Toshiba SDTV.

So far I have been using RGB SCART for gaming and the PQ looks ace. However I noticed Sony in their wisdom have included green-o-vision DVD copy protection again for RGB Scart rendering this connection useless for DVD's. (where the image has a green tinge overlayed like with the PS2). Anyway so whenever I want to play a DVD I have to switch the connection to Composite :( ugh.

Anyway the problem is I just recieved the new Casino Royale free in the BluRay promotion and it displays in black and white while using Composite.

Thinking this was some sort of frame rate issue compatability with the TV I tried using RGB Scart - get the same wacky green-o-vision but there is clearly actually colour there! (behind the green tinge)

Basically I just wanna watch the film.

Using RGB Scart/Composite both work fine for Games in full colour.

Using RGB Scart produces all DVDS/BluRay in colour with a GREEN Tinge
Using Composite AV Multi Out works for DVDs but BLACK AND WHITE BluRays.


I've tried tinkering with all the "Display" and "BD/DVD Settings" to no avil, am I being stupid/is it my tv/have sony buggered SDTV users AGAIN?

Any thoughts. Help! I invited friends round to watch the film and now realised it doesn't work! Might just have to play some Resistance instead.....

EDIT: The machine is PAL UK Model running in the Uk!
 

Dave

Distinguished Member
You do know the first bit of the film is black and white, I hope so cos you're gonna laugh a lot at yourself if you didn't know that and it turns out to be fine.:D

Welcome BTW.
 

chrispayne47

Standard Member
Just been playing a little more.....

Is it possible that this IS a 50Hz/60Hz problem with the TV?

According to the specs the TV accepts PAL/PAL60. Is it possible though that it might ONLY accept 60Hz using an RGB Scart connector where as it might not like it using composite?
 

paddy123456

Standard Member
hi

this may be a stupid suggestion but if i'm right it will make me giggle cause i thought i had the same problem. have you tried further on in the film i think the first ten minutes are in black and white anyway, being all moody an that. If not then maybe you can try the first ten minutes of the wizard of oz and see if that looks any better.
 

chrispayne47

Standard Member
Unfortunatly alas no that is not the problem! wish it was even though I would have looked like an idiot!

The entire trailer advertising blu-ray/the menus/the special features and the whole film are in B/W :(
 

paddy123456

Standard Member
try a different scart socket on the back of your tv if you have one that might help. ones usually rgb and the other not.
 

chrispayne47

Standard Member
The thing is I know this problem applies to other people because I have seen others reporting similar issues on different forums but since the "official forums"/gamefaqs/practically every other ps3 forum is dominated by bratty kids with responces

"blu-rayz on a SDTV LOSOLOOLOL"
"whaz he smoking to c b/w when its a colour film"
"get HD already!!! SD loser".....
....its a little annoying!

Thank goodness for sane lovely AVF people!
 

chrispayne47

Standard Member
Unfortunatly I have tried all 3.

One is SCART connector AV only in.
Two is SCART connector RGB/AV in.
Three is Composite Only.....

Unfortunatly all 3 produce the same results (using an adaptor or not...)
 

Dave

Distinguished Member
The thing is I know this problem applies to other people because I have seen others reporting similar issues on different forums but since the "official forums"/gamefaqs/practically every other ps3 forum is dominated by bratty kids with responces

"blu-rayz on a SDTV LOSOLOOLOL"
"whaz he smoking to c b/w when its a colour film"
"get HD already!!! SD loser".....
....its a little annoying!

Thank goodness for sane lovely AVF people!

:rotfl: Those quotes are so funny, we try to discourage posts like that here so don't get to see it much.:D

There's loads of us (me included) running a PS3 on an SD screen. It still looks great. Unfortunately I have no idea what's causing it to be black and white.:(
 

Steve1987

Member
Has your tv got an S-Video input?

If you can't RGB, then S-video is the next best thing. Probably have to buy a new cable though, seems silly that Sony's way of protecting DVD's is to stop you watching them via the best connection. :rolleyes:

I can't say this will work for Blu-ray though, tbh I can't see they're being much difference on a SD tv compaired to DVD so I wouldn't worry about it to much.
 

Indiana Jones

Moderator
Unfortunatly I have tried all 3.

One is SCART connector AV only in.
Two is SCART connector RGB/AV in.
Three is Composite Only.....

Unfortunatly all 3 produce the same results (using an adaptor or not...)

I had the exact same problem with my old CRT, it would only accept an NTSC signal through RGB Scart, if I used a regular composite scart cable it would come out in black and white and sounds like you have the same problem.

This could be a blessing in disguise though, after all watching DVDs let alone Blu-Rays through composite is just nasty, it just shouldnt be done.

I would just forget about watching it for now and wait until you have a nice HD set, dont ruin it :)
 

chrispayne47

Standard Member
I had the exact same problem with my old CRT, it would only accept a 60hz signal through RGB Scart, if I used a regular composite scart cable it would come out in black and white and sounds like you have the same problem.

This could be a blessing in disguise though, after all watching DVDs let alone Blu-Rays through composite is just nasty, it just shouldnt be done.

I would just forget about watching it for now and wait until you have a nice HD set, dont ruin it :)

Fantastic news....well in the sense that it will stop driving me up the wall and tinkering with it some more! Cheers for the heads up. Seems just another excuse to buy a nice HD screen in a couple of months time :)

Ah well at least I have the nice blue case to stare at :p

Thanks everyone!
 

Kingsd316

Member
Just one other thing, have you tried using the origanal non scart lead that came with the PS2 (the square thing that looks like a scart lead but is missing various pins), i have heard that that could be a solution.
 

hutch

Distinguished Member
It must be the same as the PS2, it had some copy protection added to RGB Scart which meant when you played DVD through it it was green.

You could play DVD's thorough composite scart but looks like Sony have applied some copy protection to that for Blu-Ray.
 

Indiana Jones

Moderator
Just one other thing, have you tried using the origanal non scart lead that came with the PS2 (the square thing that looks like a scart lead but is missing various pins), i have heard that that could be a solution.

That is just a scart adapter and it doesnt do anything to the signal, it just allows you to connect the composite cables to the scart socket, nothing more.

It must be the same as the PS2, it had some copy protection added to RGB Scart which meant when you played DVD through it it was green.

You could play DVD's thorough composite scart but looks like Sony have applied some copy protection to that for Blu-Ray.

They havent added anything to Blu-Ray, his TV simply cant handle NTSC over composite which results in a black and white picture, as I said I had this exact same problem years ago with my old CRT whenever I tried to watch NTSC DVDs on my DVD player and the only way to get colour then was to use RGB Scart, something that you cant do with the PS3.
 

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