blu ray offers too much detail?

wrkactjob

Standard Member
Have a Samsung le a656 and 1400 DVD blu ray. Watched Stargate last night and the picture offered too much detail! I don't want to see the make up on the faces of the actors! Also the film now looks like it was shot in broadcast quality video and not 35mm. The 'magic' of the film has gone, my ability to suspend disbelief has been reduced by the new found reality of detail offered.

BR seems great for Planet Earth etc but not for movies?
 
It depends on the Movie, some are better in HD than others. HD does at times show up bad CGI and can make you realise how bad an actors skin is!
 

wrkactjob

Standard Member
I am looking for a 'reduction in quality' setting!
 

kurkosdr

Standard Member
Try reducing the sharpness of the tv. This would make the boundaries between the bright and dark parts of the screen "blend" together.

Othewise, just use scart. 100% guaranteed quality reduction! (no, I am not kidding, I have too an HDMI upscale DVD recorder, and I just couldn't stand the too vivid colors and too much detail, so, it is scart for me).
 

wrkactjob

Standard Member
I will try the scart trick, though it does seem a bit crazy!

Really though even when watching Gangs of New York (via Humax - Hdmi) through the TV it is weird! The detail is total, but it's like when you see footage of a film being made, like behind the scene? You see the actors doing their thing being filmed in high quality video and it doesn't look 'realistic' only when you see the film proper in 35mm are you taken in by it all. On my set up now every film looks like it has been shot on video! Amazing quality but aarrgh! Lacking what I have been used to!
 

Northerner76

Established Member
This has to be the first time I have every heard anyone complain about the extra detail from hi-def! Bizarre :D

Would suggest you stick with it, as with most things you will just get used to a new "feel"...

Alternatively - perhaps the settings you have are making it look worse... have you tried to find the "opttimum" settings for your screen?
 

wrkactjob

Standard Member
I havnt started to play with settings yet no, it looks like a minefield to enter, I even think there is a thread devoted to settings for this Samsung TV and at the end of the day settings are just down to personal preference and there is little in the wayof right or wrong. I'm just left with the conclusion that too much detail isn't comfortable on the eye.
 

DaveHT

Established Member
About that "video look", I think people are discovering that the "smooth" look of motion interpolation (AKA 100Hz, Motion Plus, Natural Motion...) makes movies seem "weird". I think this is not about HD vs SD, it's the 100Hz effect.

Just turn 100Hz off for movies, and you'll be back to 24fps, the way all movies are displayed in every theater. Just be prepared to accept the (perfectly normal) 24fps judder and less smooth pans. I do prefer it that way, and so do most reviewers out there. The 100Hz effect is neat at first, but very annoying after the novelty is gone.

Dave.
 

Orbitalzone

Established Member
I sugest you conect your blue player through composite .
You should instantly go back at least 15 years :laugh:

Better still, buy a cheap rf modulator from Maplins, feed it composite video from the Blu Ray and you'll be able to enjoy standard definition pictures with all the associated delights of RF and in glorious mono.

This all seems very bizarre! :D
 

thomo14

Established Member
Maybe stick to small doses of hd quality at a time and watch as much of itv in standard def as you can, this should help the dissapointment. :hiya: Bizarre
 

wrkactjob

Standard Member
About that "video look", I think people are discovering that the "smooth" look of motion interpolation (AKA 100Hz, Motion Plus, Natural Motion...) makes movies seem "weird". I think this is not about HD vs SD, it's the 100Hz effect.

Just turn 100Hz off for movies, and you'll be back to 24fps, the way all movies are displayed in every theater. Just be prepared to accept the (perfectly normal) 24fps judder and less smooth pans. I do prefer it that way, and so do most reviewers out there. The 100Hz effect is neat at first, but very annoying after the novelty is gone.

Dave.

Should have responded to this a while back but yep this did the trick. I have found other people on other forums suggesting the same and turning 100hz off returns the movie to the way a movie should look and not like a high quality video.

I previously thought 100hz was just something to do with fast moving picture action scenes, but it seems it does much more and now I only use it for 'factual' type programs.

"The Samsung LE40A656Buy HDTV did not manifest any evidence of telecine judder (as judged from the slow panning shots and scrolling end credits in the movie) when displaying 1080p/24 video signal from the Sony PS3. Activating [100Hz Motion Plus] would smoothen even the inherent 24fps judder (which is responsible for the dream-like filmic look we've come to associate with movies), but in the process make I Am Legend look like a video documentary.

We're not big fans of this video effect, but some of you may grow to like it, especially when you take into consideration the increased motion resolution that [100Hz Motion Plus] brings. During the horizontal pan across the panicking crowd trying to evacuate New York City (40:42), individual figures were simply less blurry and more well-defined if [100Hz Motion Plus] was engaged. "

http://www.*/Samsung-LE40A656/Picture-Quality.htm
 
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nickymarshall

Prominent Member
Lol - I've just bought a 656 and whilst I was a little unsure about exactly the same issues raised in this thread, the missus distinctly doesn't like it.
 

nickymarshall

Prominent Member
Turned the 100hz down to low and it's loads better.
 

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