Blu-ray cheaper than HD-DVD

Ian_S

Distinguished Member
So HD-DVD's are cheaper to make than Blu-ray discs?

HD-DVD: http://memorex.com/html/newsroom_pr_show.php?PressID=142

Blu-ray: http://memorex.com/html/newsroom_pr_show.php?PressID=138

$19.99 each for the recommended price... Now that is a surprise.

Now clearly it would be childish of me to point out that HD-DVD media is available in the US without an HD-DVD writer of any description? I mean, that would be even more of a debacle than releasing a Blu-ray recorder that doesn't contain all the extra hardware and software to play a Blu-ray movie wouldn't it? :eek:
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
:rotfl: Keep up the rant Ian. One day you might even buy a BluRay player and then you'll see why the rest of us are dissatisfied ;)
 

mattym

Banned
Ian_S said:
So HD-DVD's are cheaper to make than Blu-ray discs?

HD-DVD: http://memorex.com/html/newsroom_pr_show.php?PressID=142

Blu-ray: http://memorex.com/html/newsroom_pr_show.php?PressID=138

$19.99 each for the recommended price... Now that is a surprise.

Now clearly it would be childish of me to point out that HD-DVD media is available in the US without an HD-DVD writer of any description? I mean, that would be even more of a debacle than releasing a Blu-ray recorder that doesn't contain all the extra hardware and software to play a Blu-ray movie wouldn't it? :eek:

good point well made. :D
 

Ian_S

Distinguished Member
Rasczak said:
:rotfl: Keep up the rant Ian. One day you might even buy a BluRay player and then you'll see why the rest of us are dissatisfied ;)
I don't doubt for one second that the Toshiba is delivering better pictures right now, and when the European players are released I may even get one.

However, like others on here, the very one sided nature of the debate has gotten a little weary so it's about time the other side got a fairer crack of the whip, not through speculation but through what it happening.

One of the big claims of HD-DVD was that it was cheaper to produce. If that's the case why is the Memorex price effectively more expensive at $20 for 15GB. Surely it should be closer to $12 to maintain price per GB parity, and if they are genuinely cheaper it should be less, say $9.99. So, is it really cheaper or are Memorex profiteering??

And what exactly are US customers supposed to do with them? Coffee mat?
 

jsgreen89

Novice Member
What nobody has realised is that Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are actually the same format, hence the same price.
Don't believe me? Put a Blu-Ray disc in an HD-DVD drive (and vice-versa). You'll see i'm right :lesson:

The format war was created by Toshiba & Sony as part of an elaborate April Fool's joke..
 

dUnKle

Distinguished Member
jsgreen89 said:
What nobody has realised is that Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are actually the same format, hence the same price.
Don't believe me? Put a Blu-Ray disc in an HD-DVD drive (and vice-versa). You'll see i'm right :lesson:

The format war was created by Toshiba & Sony as part of an elaborate April Fool's joke..

you do know someone will try
 

DHAKA

Banned
jsgreen89 said:
What nobody has realised is that Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are actually the same format, hence the same price.
Don't believe me? Put a Blu-Ray disc in an HD-DVD drive (and vice-versa). You'll see i'm right :lesson:

The format war was created by Toshiba & Sony as part of an elaborate April Fool's joke..
Now this is stupid!!! No offense but this is silly comment. Dont you think no one ever tried that yet!!!! DO you think they can get way with such big lie!!!. Get your facts right.
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
One of the big claims of HD-DVD was that it was cheaper to produce. If that's the case why is the Memorex price effectively more expensive at $20 for 15GB. Surely it should be closer to $12 to maintain price per GB parity, and if they are genuinely cheaper it should be less, say $9.99. So, is it really cheaper or are Memorex profiteering??
The claims it was cheaper were only referring to pre-recorded HD DVD media due to it using the same production lines as conventional DVD. AFAIK nobody (in the know) ever said recordable HD DVD media would be cheaper. If they did they it was foolish as DVD+/-R DL have shown precisely what happens to prices of new recordable media when production is limited to a few companies only (which is the case for all new blue laser media).

Regardless the 'HD DVD discs are cheaper' argument hasn't brought any benefit to the consumer - pre-recorded BD and HD DVD are more or less the same price - hence the reason why nobody mentions it anymore. In the same way nobody mentions BluRay and high quality together anymore as we know that isn't true. Once formats actually get out on the street the myths fall away and those of us with the products can discuss the real pros and cons ;)
 

ianh64

Novice Member
Ian_S said:
So, is it really cheaper or are Memorex profiteering??
Memorex, profiteering? Never. Thats left to firms that put a brand name on cheap shoddy inferior products like Imation did in the DVD-RW market ;) Box of 10 DVD-RW's may have been cheap but with even that was more than they were worth. Lets hope that Memorex have better luck with their HD/blu-ray disc compatibility.

Oops, Imation and Memorex are the same company!
 

jsgreen89

Novice Member
DHAKA said:
Now this is stupid!!! No offense but this is silly comment. Dont you think no one ever tried that yet!!!! DO you think they can get way with such big lie!!!. Get your facts right.
I wondered whether I needed to add a wink to my post just in case somebody was dumb enough to take my comment seriously.. I assumed that most people on the forum would be intelligent enough.. :rolleyes:
 

Seth Gecko

retired member
jsgreen89 said:
I wondered whether I needed to add a wink to my post just in case somebody was dumb enough to take my comment seriously.. I assumed that most people on the forum would be intelligent enough.. :rolleyes:
I thought the April Fool part was kind of a clue (although in fairness, I knew you were joking straight away).

Oh well :rolleyes:
 

DHAKA

Banned
jsgreen89 said:
I wondered whether I needed to add a wink to my post just in case somebody was dumb enough to take my comment seriously.. I assumed that most people on the forum would be intelligent enough.. :rolleyes:

:oops:

have a :beer: ;)
 

Ian_S

Distinguished Member
Rasczak said:
In the same way nobody mentions BluRay and high quality together anymore as we know that isn't true. Once formats actually get out on the street the myths fall away and those of us with the products can discuss the real pros and cons ;)
So people looking to understand the products can't discuss them then? :thumbsdow
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
So people looking to understand the products can't discuss them then?
:rotfl: Of course we discuss them - especially those of us who own the format - you just won't find many mentions of BluRay and high quality together. ;)
 

Cool-hand

Novice Member
jsgreen89 said:
I wondered whether I needed to add a wink to my post just in case somebody was dumb enough to take my comment seriously.. I assumed that most people on the forum would be intelligent enough.. :rolleyes:

Ha ha ha... . . . been there few times... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :devil:

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