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BK XLS 200 or Paradigm PW2200?

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by Cheng, Oct 14, 2003.

  1. Cheng

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    I've been thinking about getting a subwoofer, assuming I could get the PW2200 at £260, would it be better than the £279 BK XLS 200?

    Assuming I could get the PW2200 only at £350, would it still be justified over the BK XLS 200 at £279?

    Thanks a lot,

    Cheng
     
  2. bwstsw

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    I can only speak for the XLS 200 as I have one of those now, and its a beauty, superior to most subs I have tried and tested, and easily one of the best subs under £500.

    EDIT: Just been checking out the Paradigm PW2200, certainly looks an impressive sub, spec wise. Paradigm are certainly a well regarded make. But at the end of the day, it comes down to size, the Paradigm PW2200 is HUGE, where as the BK XLS 200 is a more compact (wife-friendly) offering. It all depends on that I think, but regardless which ever you go for will surely provide you with years of top quality sub-bass.

    [edit by Ian J - irrelevant points deleted]
     
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    If space isn't a priority, then most likely yes. Haven't heard it but looking at the specs, I'd be very suprised if the BK is comparable in terms of performance.

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    I agree with MuFu that the Paradigm sub is likely to be superior
     
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    The Paradigm is nearly twice the size and twice the weight however...so it comes down to his choice...either will be amazing which ever he goes for though. I would personally go for space, but if that doesnt bother him then the Paradigm I guess.
     
  8. Cheng

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    Hmmm, the paradigm then sounds pretty good (as its actually in stock at RS, amazingly) , space probably won't be an issue...at 16, wife factor is a non issue, dad factor more like!

    Cheers guys for the advice.
     
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    Cheng

    If it's only half as good as a servo 15, it'll still be twice the sub of almost anything else at that price ;)

    Chris
     
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    The PW2200 isn't too far off a Servo15 IMO. Certianly the 2200 is far more than half as good - perhaps 85% of the performance? Doesn't go quite as low, but low enough to put quite a few other, more expensive, subs to shame. And no, I'm not being bias. If the 2200 weren't as good then I'd have a different sub!

    Russell
     
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    Ok, assuming if the PW2200 is £350, (i.e. they won't sell for £260), how would the PW2200 (spec wise, and listening wise) shape up to the Velo CHT-10, or MJ Pro 150, as they are about the same price range?

    I'm going to hopefully demo it on saturday, assuming that they haven't sold it by then!
     
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    I haven't heard the subs you mention, so cannot offer advice on those, really. I have heard the CHT15 and, good though that sub is, the difference in quality isn't big enough to be cost justifiable. Even at £350. Therefore, based on that information, I would think the CHT10 would be inferior to the 2200. Again, I can't be sure, so perhaps someone else could shine a light, here?

    If you are going to have a dem of the 2200, then you are doing the best thing. Shame you can't get a dem of the MJ, too, to put your mind at ease. When you have a demo of the 2200, make sure the guys in the shop don't have it in a corner. It will boom like something not right if it is, as there is a 6" diameter port at the back! Something else to consider, I suppose?

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    I've got the PW2200. I managed to get it at the £260 price. It is, without doubt a fantastic piece of kit. With regards to WAF, put a vase on it and call it a coffee table. That's what I did.:laugh: BTW I haven't heard the BK XLS 200, but I fail to see how it could be better. 'IMHO', of course!
     
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    I take it you glued it down :laugh:
    I have my centre speaker sat on my servo till I can get a shelf made for it. Damn thing nearly bounces of at most volumes

    You could always sell it as the latest in electro massage contraptions.

    Chris
     
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    My mind has suddenly become very dirty! LOL.
     
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    Can't imagine what you mean :laugh:
    Honestly wasn't thinking that. But now you mention it...
    God this could make us a fortune...

    Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase 'wife friendly'
    :devil:

    Chris
     
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    Which store did you get it from for the £260? My local store has one will not budge on price.
     
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    Bought it at the RS store in Guildford a couple of months ago. The pricing on this sub seems to be very inconsistent, even between RS stores. Maybe ringing round will help. I can offer no explanation for this. In fact I was willing to pay full price, and it was only at the till the guy told me it was in fact £90 cheaper!
     
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    I have just tried to get a servo 15 or psw2200, to be told by both Reading and Guildford that none in stock any where and are probably discontinued. :(
     
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    Mr Cheese, Clancol and anyone else with a PW2200, I am interested to know what inputs, outputs and adjustment are on this sub, Is the phase constantly variable or 0 & 180, auto standby mode etc. Also what is the power of the amp.

    Anyone know how much these retail for tin the US.

    I am still considering one for my front room although it will not go between my front speakers, I will have to put it at the side or rear of the room and I guess it will be a table, does the cabinet resonate much? :D
     
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    The phase control is constantly variable.

    The Power to the sub is either always on or auto-switch-on. The latter is quite sensitive.

    I believe that the power of the amp is 200w, although the Paradigm website seems to have different stats.

    I don't know how much the 2200 is in the US, and don't much care. At £260-350, there isn;t a better sub for less with the closest rival being the Servo15 (not having heard the BK sub).

    The cabinet does resonate, but not as much as closed box subs, like the Servo, or Q200.

    Russell
     
  22. Mr Cheese

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    I think the amp is 250W RMS. Possibly the difference in specs on the website is to to an upgraded model?

    pwiles

    There are low level inputs L/R or L/mono (phono sockets)
    High level inputs (Speaker terminals)
     
  23. Cheng

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    My local branch has just told me they haven't had any for a while, yet when I phoned on tuesday they said they had one in!!
     
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    My local branch had one in when I phoned the other day they said they may take £300 for it, I have been thinking about buying one but I'm skint and it is not exactly what I want (too big), I think I may look at the BK after Christmas or save up for a B&W ASW675, so if you really want it, it is in the Coventry Branch, don’t all rush at once. :rotfl:
     
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    Ok, then so assuming I can't get a PW2200 at all, or not for £260;

    BK XLS 200 for £279
    MJ PRO 100 for £350
    PW2000 for £350

    Would the PW2200 be better value for money than the XLS even at £350?

    Can the PW2200 justify £90 extra than the BK-XLS 200?

    I can't demo either one, seeing that no richer near me has any stock, and BK are straight to customers right?
     
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    pwiles:

    This is a reply I got from an email I recently sent to Tom:

    We have a large stock of the Peerless XLS10 drive units which we would like to clear, this is the reason for the limited stock. That said I would say it will take a couple of months to shift.

    Regards

    Tom Pearce
     
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    Grinder:

    Cheers I have also E-Mailed BK with several enquiries and got response back from Tom, He thought they may have stock of the Peerless into next year, It is unlikely I will be able to afford one until after Christmas, unless they put in the power buys (I can hope cant I).
     
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    Wouldn't like to comment too much about the PW2200, but the BK is a much better sub than the MJA Ref 100, without a doubt.

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