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Biggest (physical) CRT?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by meep, Mar 9, 2003.

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  1. meep

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    Hi All

    I'm finally biting the bullet and ceiling mounting my CRT (Sony 1271).

    This will require major surgery as I'm going to "recess" the pj into the roof space as much as possible by cutting a great big hole in my ceiling.

    Now, given that power tools will be involved, I obviously want to get it right first time. Within the next year, I'll probably be upgrading the Sony to something a bit better.

    My question is, what's the biggest projector ppl have come across. I'd like to make the cut-out large enough to accomodate any future purchase (such as a 9" beast).

    If people could advise of the biggest, currently available and recomended CRT they know of, I can chase up the specs.

    Thanks

    Peter
     
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    I'd make it large enough to fit a Barco 1209 or Cine 9. Are you going to get anything better than that? I seriously doubt it, not unless you win the Lotto or similar then it won't matter anyhoo.
     
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    Are 12" PJ's available?
     
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    I beleive so. Used for flight simulators etc. I think.
     
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    Meep: Hows the PJ doing? I'm looking into getting one myself (already got a Barco D600, which only has analogue convergance).
     
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    Richard,

    Sony is perfroming exceptionally well.

    The learning curve for set-up, conveergence etc. was steep but now I can do a full set-up from factory defaults in under an hour - not that I need to as this unit seems to hold it's settings extremely well.

    I've just added a H3D card to my HTPC and the improvement in picture quality from sky is amazing. Where sports were previously unwatchable due to poor definition, I can now enjoy a game fully (particularly on BBC who broadcast true widescreen and so has more information in the image. (Ireland 15, France 12 - roll on England!!!)

    Anyway, I'm lucky to be in a position to run the PJ in a completely light controlled room so the image is bright even at average brightness/contrast settings. I run the unit at 720x576x50HJz so as not to tax it too much but even at that, the picture looks great.

    I'd consider upgrading to a larger unit to get a brighter picture and and other improvements that might be going. I won't do so, however, until I attend an "event" or one of Roland's set up sessions and see the bigger units in action and analyse what I would be getting for my extra money.

    The only annoying thing is slight wear on the blue tube. This is not nmoticible except when I push the image as wide as possible on the CRT face to acheive maximum performance. Then, I'm using an portion of the RT with no wear and I get a blue tinted vertical strip running down the left side of my image (only really noticible on a white picture). Of course I can get rid of this by pulling the projector back and not using that portion of the CRT but then I wouldn't be acheiving max performance, would I!

    Anyway, the ceiling mounting is going ahead in the next few weeks (wife permitting) so I'll post pictures on a revised website (lots of new stuff going on in the a/v dept as well so it really does need to be updated).

    Good luck with the new purchase if you decide to go ahead.
     
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    As Rick says the Cine9/MAX/909 is the longest widest unit you are likely to get involved with. Electrohome/Chritie VDC units are taller but not as long or wide.

    There are 12" units available. SOme folk who attended the miniEvent last August will have seen one at StereoStereo(although not powered up). They are two box designs. One box has electronics to drive the thing the other has three portable TV's in it...or at least that's what it looks like. They are connected by an umbilical cord that makes Naim's big snaics look like string. I took pics of one I worked on but can't find them anywhere on my new laptop. Guess they are lost forever.

    Working/thinking on event idea's and times.

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    Yes, but their only advantage is brightness. They arent any more sharp than a good 9" projector.

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    Their other advantage is actually resolution, although thats not much benefit in home cinema environment.

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    If you are seriously consider spending mega buck on 12" CRT projector, and still have
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    I suggest you take a look at JVC DLA-QX1G. In short
    • Resolution above HDTV, 2048x1536
    • Contrast Ratio 1000:1
    • 7,000 ANSI Lumens
    • Size slightly smaller than Sony 1271
    • Very expensive, £150,000 + VAT, therefore significantly increases pride of ownership
    Combine it with ISCO 16:9 Video Attachment III and you can easily have 20' Wide screen with light to spare. The attachment is very cheap in comparison, only EUR 4,200 + VAT.

    No CRT can beat this projector.
     
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    LCD?- no thanks.
     
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    It's D-ILA, much better in theory.
     
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    Still got a expensive bulb though.
     
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    True true.

    I'm a CRT fanboy myself, wouldn't touch LCD personally.

    LCD black, that's grey I'm aftaid!:D :rotfl: :clap:
     
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    Or purple in the case of the Hitachi LCOS projector. :eek:
     
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    Branx....I know of a chap who got one of those to try to replace his 9" crt......it was so crap he bought another, CRT instead.....:hiya:

    Gordon

    P.S. Don't think he had a 20' wide screen though. I've seenone too and it wasn't actually crap at all. It was quite nice. It was firing HD on to a huge cinema screen though........not really suitabe for your usualy home use.
     
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    Only thing i'd replace CRT with is a proper Barco Cinema DLP job. they're good.
     
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    Enough Already

    didn't intend to start yet another crt vs lcd thread. (YACLT)

    I'll make the hole big enogh for a 1209/CineMax should one of those happen to find it's way into my home, in the meantime my trusty 1271 will chug away for another little while.

    Branxx, I don't know where you got the impression that I was about to spalsh £150K+ on a projector - if you look at the otehr equipment I run i think you'll find that is slightly disproportionate!

    Thanks for the input everyone.

    Peter
     
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