Best with set-top boxes – Tosh XS34 or Pany EH50?

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  1. howardmg

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    I’m reliant on cable as my aerial reception is no good, and therefore no point in me waiting for HDD DVDs with Freeview later in year (luckily).

    I understand that the Tosh is good in controlling set-top boxes and sounds like a great machine from what I’ve read here.

    But before I make the plunge are there any significant disadvantages v the new Panasonic EH50?

    These things come to mind after reading about the Panasonic in What Video this month:-

    - It can play +R discs – can the Toshiba?
    - Quick start up time of one second – how does the Tosh compare if you keep it on the whole time?
    - New 500 line resolution on the LP mode allowing a 3 hour film on one disc
    - High speed HDD -> DVD dub

    Appreciate any feedback…
     
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    Toshiba XS32 (and I believe XS34) won't play +R discs. (unless they were burned with a DVD-ROM booktype).

    Doesn't start in one second from off - more like 10-15 seconds. If it is on, it starts immediately.

    Full (500 line) resolution up to 2 hours 20 mins... for 3 hours would use half resolution. Picture still pretty good; I can't say how it compares to the new Pannys.

    It does high speed HDD > DVD DUB. On -R it is 4x, on -RW it is 2x.

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    I'm trying to make the same decision - but I'm also throwing the Panny E95 into the mix.

    The Panny EH50 has a 12bit D/A converter which is supposed to improve playback picture quality compared to the 10bit E95 and Toshiba. I have seen posts from people who have used the Tosh 32/34 that state that Panny's are more user friendly. Also a couple of posts complaining about the 34s fan noise. The main advantage for me of the Tosh is its DV input. That is why I am also considering the Panny E95.
     
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    Thanks to both of you for the feedback - would a Dell NEC +R/+RW drive count as a "DVD-ROM booktype"?

    New Pannys claim 4 hours at 500 line resolution.

    I was heading for the Toshiba XS34 but there seem to be a number of disadvantages:-

    - noisy fan
    - -R software issues
    - unlikely to play +R
    - no external link to STB (need redeye tool to get IR to control Telewest Pace STB I think)

    One, probably stupid, question on DV IN - as I edit my camcorder footage via the PC, is this something I need?

    Thanks
     
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    Do any of the pannys have set-top box control ?
    I would put the convenience of this for everyday use higher than any marginal details of formats and dac resolution you'll neer notice....
     
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    To set the booktype you need a PC drive which can handle this, and also burining software that can do it. I'm not sure about your particular drive.

    If you edit your DV camcorder footage via PC (as I do), then DV in on the recorder isn't essential, but I've found it useful, when I want a quick way to record some footage.

    I don't find the fan an issue (on the XS32), but some do.

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    Does any one know how much is the Panny EH50. I noticed you can get a Tosh XS32 for around £300. If the Panny EH50 cost significantly more then we can't compare the mini with a BMW
     
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    Similar prices: at RGB Direct (for example), XS34 is £318, EH50 is £321. I'd go for the XS34 over a XS32, unless you can get the XS32 much cheaper. XS34 vs. EH50 is a harder call.

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    I recently had this dilemma but ended up going for the XS34 due to the DV Input and the 160GB HDD. Mine arrived yesterday so I'll have a good play with it over the weekend. Another downside of the Panny's for me is they don't record a 16:9 flag to -R, only to DVD-RAM, I think the XS34 will record the flag but I can't confirm that just yet.

    Cheers
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    I'm pretty sure the XS34 will, the XS32 does....

    When you create a DVD-R on the XS32, you can specify 3 values for the aspect ratio (which sets the "flag" appropriately): Either 4:3, 16:9, or "Original", which takes the value from the recording.

    I tried to check the XS34 manual to see if it works the same, but when I download the manual I only get the first 86 pages... strange... from http://tesc.toshiba.co.uk

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    Can any Panasonic owners out there confirm that they can / cannot control Digiboxes?
     
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    My E85 can't - I bought a device that's supposed to do this via infrared but it was useless. I believe the best player to do this is the Pioneer 920 but it costs nearly £900.
     

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