Best wireless system for about £900

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  1. Hjm80

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    Hi,
    I am looking for a streaming system for my dad.
    Potentials:-

    Naim muso
    Nad d2030 +speakers
    Blue sound powernode2 + speakers
    Blue sound powernode 1 + better speakers


    Requirements:

    Something he can use Bluetooth to stream direct from his phone without having to go in to an app and queue songs up ie Sonos.

    Analogue input so he can play his turntable.

    Sound too fill a large room.

    Poss able to add an subwoofer.


    With a budget of £900?

    Many thanks
    Hywel
     
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    What sort of app is your dad currently using on his smartphone, that doesn't use a queue/playlist type mechanism to play his music?
     
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    At the moment he is just using his deezer though a portable Bluetooth speaker. We are thinking about changing to a tidal subscription tho. He wants something similar on a bigger scale.
     
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    Rather than bluetooth, which isn't great sound quality even if your gear supports Apt-X - both ends of the system need to have inbuilt support so your phone and receiving kit, then consider a Chromecast Audio. You can plug it into any system with an input - analogue or optical, you can cast from just about anything running on the phone and it gives you good flexibility on your choice of amp and speakers. Easy to setup and very stable.

    A subscription to Tidal would be a waste of time if you are going to transmit it by bluetooth as it will degrade the improved sound quality you have paid for, whereas a CCA will maintain the quality as it works up to 24/96
     
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    Ok thank you, can you recommend an amp. He would Like something not too big, and just a set of bookshelf speakers to match.
     
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    Best to scan the market or go to your local hifi shop to get exactly what you want. The joy of the CCA is that it enables streaming to any amp.
     
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    Would it be able to stream tidal in high quality sound? So you wouldn't go down the root of a streaming amp? To
     
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    1) Yes- CCA supports up to 24bit/96KHz
    2) No - would rather have the flexibility of using any amp. Also no lock in to some of the awful apps that some streaming amps have - I have a Denon N8 and the app could not be worse. Solved by connecting a CCA and streaming from Spotify/BBC iPlayer etc direct from those apps. you just press the cast button and select your CCA - job done. The one improvement over the basic setup is to put a DAC between the CCA and amp or get an amp with a DAC (optical input) and connect that way as the internal DAC on the CCA is OK but can be bettered for not much outlay. The CCA is only £30.
     
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    With the naim muso you get a 90 day trial of hi def Tidal subscription. Streams via wifi thru the muso app so no loss of quality. Sound is absolutely stunning!
     
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    Ok,thanks. Might get a cca for myself. At the moment I'm just using my old squeezebox touch in to an amp.
     
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    Could I play tidal through the squeezebox in hi res?
     
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    I've added my 2p's worth concerning TIDAL via Squeezebox on your other thread.

    With regards the CCA, one problem is that it doesn't natively support gapless playback (if this is important to your father) and is unlikely to be fixed, see the Chromecast official issues list:
    Issue 745 - google-cast-sdk - Add true gapless playback support to Chromecast Audio - Google Cast SDK - Google Project Hosting

    The official Tidal app doesn't yet support Chromecast, but the excellent BubbleUPnP Android app does. You can use the BubbleUPnP app to connect to and stream from Tidal (as well as other online/cloud streaming services) using any UPnP/DLNA supporting streamer as well as the CCA. The BubbleUPnP app is certainly worth testing to see if your father is ok with its user interface using its Tidal connection. The app also has a built-in player/local renderer, so you don't need to use a UPnP/DLNA streamer or a CCA to test Tidal with it. You could use the free 30 day official Tidal trial, available to anyone.

    Also, you can get further Tidal & CCA features if you run the free BubbleUPnP Server helper software (produced by the same developer of BubbleUPnP Android app) on a computer (Windows, Mac, Linux, even the Raspberry Pi) or some NASs (eg Synology, QNAP):
    Use the CCA with any standard UPnP/DNA controller app,
    Use the CCA with any OpenHome (aka UPnP with Linn extensions) controller app,
    Use any standard UPnP/DLNA streamer with any OpenHome controller app,
    OpenHome support includes TIDAL connectivity and cached current playlist (allowing the streamer to play the rest of the playlist even when the controller app shuts down).

    The latest OpenHome controller apps support Tidal, so by using the BubbleUPnP Server helper software you have more user interfaces to test out TIDAL with, using any standard UPnP/DLNA streamer or the CCA, eg (all free):
    BubbleDS Next (Android)
    Linn Kazoo (Android, iOS, Windows & Mac)
    LUMÏN (Android & iOS)

    BTW, the BubbleUPnP Android app supports OpenHome as well as standard UPnP/DLNA. Also its internal player, the local renderer, can be used as a streamer with other controller apps on the network - useful for testing with.
     
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