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Best thing about Van Helsing...

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  1. Stuart Wright

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    ...was the Shaun Of The Dead trailer at the start.
    Leastways best thing about the first half an hour, after which we switched it off and happily went back to work.
    Utter tripe. Made me think for the first time ever that I'm too old for a movie.
     
  2. Phil Hinton

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    How do you think us reviewers feel having to sit through the whole thing! Utter Tripe!
     
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    I paid to go to the cinema to see it :eek:
     
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    I have this in my to watch pile where it may stay for eternity:(
     
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    Rubbish! In my opinion was worth the pain of watching it for Kate Beckinsale :laugh:
     
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    Surely it merits a 3/10 for the beckinsale factor?
     
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    same here, but lucky it was cheap night, so only £7 for me and the woman.

    it is the only film i can remember where there is too much pointless action.

    still i might suffer it again if i can pick it up for £1 or less but untill that day comes...
     
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    Haven't seen it yet but surely it can't be worse than League of Extraordinary Gentlemen...surely it can't be worse than that, surely?
     
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    Oh yeah it is......................
















    But only by a little bit........
     
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    If u like Kate Bekinsale go watch "Haunted"
    aged 20 and totally naked in many scenes
    (and it's a good movie unlike Van Helsing)
     
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    Well thanks to everyone hyping how terrible this film is, I watched it not expecting much and was pleasently suprised.


    Excellent effects and action throughout. A great film to shut off the brain and enjoy the eye candy.
     
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    Me and the misses saw this in the cinema and found it great fun. Totally mindless, and the Mr Hyde scene was totally pointless, purley included because some computer whizz could do it, but we thought the film was pretty cool. Ultimately, sometimes we just want to be entertained after a hard day's work and not have to think about plots and methods of acting, just switch off the brain and enjoy. This was the perfect movie for that. I'm surprised it's come in for so much flack considering. Now, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen....that was in a similar vein, but not as good. Oh, and Kate Beckinsale. Awesome.
     
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    I loved every moment of it!
    Totally mindless action throughout which is my kind of film. :thumbsup:
    I'll be watching my DVD many times over.

    Now for a real bore try Pirates of the Caribbean. :thumbsdow
     
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    I'm also one who enjoyed this action spectacular ( i also enjoed League as well). For these kind of no brainer action films i see little to complain about. I would think most people going to the movies,renting or buying a title like this would have a good idea what to expect in the first place and i personally don't think it disappoints in what it or they deliver.
    I saw recently in the States AVP and Sky Captain of Tomorrow and again really enjoyed these films.
    Maybe i'm just easily pleased :blush: and put up with anything thrown at me but in the last few years i can't recall any of these type of "blockbuster" movies that have left me saying "that was crap" or leaving me feeling short changed.
    Just my thoughts. :laugh:

    Panic
     
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    its pants yeah :suicide: , but it sounds amazing! :clap:
     
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    I'd give her one :devil:

    Watched it at the cinema with a friend (it was her choice, I swear), and thought it was rubbish. Not so bad that I felt like walking out, but not good.

    Cheers,
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    i agree with you pug72 i thought it was a good film really enjoyed it
     
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    Could be worse you could've bought the Dvd like me and wasted more money :thumbsdow
     
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    I just have done!:rolleyes:

    Actually it's for my teenage daughter, who saw it in the cinema, thinks it's great and has been pestering me to buy it for her!

    the joys of parenthood :mad:

    time for another :beer:
     
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    "...no brainer..."
    "...eye candy..."
    "...popcorn movie..."
    "...shut the brain off and enjoy..."

    The usual litany of excuses that signals loud and clear...

    CRAP FILM!!! :smashin:

    P.S. When I went to the a reissue screening of "2001: A Space Odyssey" a while back, my mate and I ate popcorn. Does this mean it's a popcorn movie? ;)
     
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    I like the film because of the great CGI and as I said, there's action from start to finish.

    Those quotes ARE genuine reasons for liking a film.

    Not all films are the best thing ever, you need to learn to appreciate this and you'll enjoy more movies without hating them because they aren't as good as your faves.

    I'm glad I can 'switch off' to enjoy thin plotted films with tidy effects and I enjoy a good 'thinker' as much as the next bloke.
     
  22. Racquel Darrian

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    I have close to 750 DVDs and a vast amount of them is action stuff.
    I love watching films and can easily admire Shawshank Redemption and Van Helsing for what they are.

    Films are about taste. One mans meat is another mans poison and all that.
    I'm fortunate to have a very wide taste in films.

    I too loved Sky Captain and will no doubt love AVP too.
    On the other hand I thought Shaun of the Dead was corny rubbish that I did not find funny in any way at all.
    But that's just my opinion and I'm sure lots of others thought it was great.
     
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    Then why not just stick to video games if that's all it takes to float your boat? Call me old fashioned, but plot, human drama and characterisation are fairly important factors in a good movie...

    And for the record, a lot of the CGI in the movie is far from "...great...". Indeed some sequences are extremely ropey.

    Or, in the case of VH, films with no plot and lots of dodgy effects. ;) As I've stated before in another thread on this movie/video game, I find it preferable to keep the ol' brain switched on. Especially at the movies. Helps avoid uncritical consumption of brain-dead 2-hour commercials for toys and video games, like VH, that Hollywood just loves to churn out with monotonous regularity under the guise of cinema.

    Why do people on these threads insist on seeing a switched off brain in order to make the consumption of mindless dreck more palatable as something to be proud of? Hello??? :rolleyes:

    Newsflash - a listing of Van Helsing, AVP and Sky Captain does not demonstrate "...a very wide taste in films...". Quite the opposite in fact - it demonstrates a love of tired old multiplex fodder...
     
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    Hate to break it to you but as I have (already mentioned) close to 750 DVDs consisiting of everything from romantic comedies, splatter horror films, sc-fi films, dramas, old B/W films, porn, war films, westerns etc. I think I am able to state that I have a wide taste in films. :hiya:

    As for wanting to switch my brain off when watching a film I ask why not?
    I am a Scientist by day and I use my brain enough thank you. ;)
    When I get home I can't think of anything better than making a hot cup of coffee and watching something like Van Helsing. Or maybe I'll go for any of the other 749 DVDs on my shelves. :smashin:

    If you don't like Hollywood films like Van Helsing then good for you.
    I do (along with millions of others). :lesson:
     
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    Strangely enough I'm a scientist by day too and I like to switch my brain off by watching Tom and Jerry with my kids when I get home at night (Nickjr 5.30-6.00pm?). Funny thing is I can watch films and suspend belief for a while like LOTR etc. I can't understand it when people say its a crap film because it's unbelievable like VH. Surely EVERY film you see is unbelievable as it is not true to life (even if it's a real life account). I think there is an art to watching and enjoying films and that is just to make your own mind up. Don't ever be swayed by critics. If you like a film it doesn't matter if everybody else hates it. If you like it watch it again and enjoy it.

    Sorry for going on I'm 40 tomorrow and I'm feeling eerrrr old!!!!!
     
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    And slightly drunk even though I've got work in the morning :thumbsdow
     
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    I'm a scientist by day too, it's good to see there's others out there. But give it a rest the_pauley, there's no need to sneer at those who don't share your taste. So OK it's no Bladerunner, it was a half-decent laugh (at times) with lots of bangs. There's no reason to feel guilty about putting the brain in neutral for a while. As for 'why do people on these threads insist on seeing ...', why worry?

    Oh and Happy Birthday Cranium!! :thumbsup:
     
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    My original point stands - namely that the three you mentioned as evidence of "...wide taste..." were nothing of the sort.

    Your above posting only demonstrates a variety of genres in your collection, not a "...wide taste...". The same "type" of movie (mindless, formulaic dreck - for example) can cross many genres.

    Why not? Because (and as a scientist you should know this) it is impossible to switch one's brain off. It's nothing more than a lazy excuse for lousy movies and nothing to boast about.

    I work as a lecturer, so I too "...use my brain..." for my job, but I don't find it a chore, effort or handicap to continue to use it for my movie viewing. Quite the opposite in fact - I find it a BIG plus. Highly enjoyable. Enhances the pleasure no end! :smashin:

    Think about it - if you're telling all and sundry over the internet that you switch your brain off when you watch a movie, then you can't expect your judgements/opinions to be taken seriously. After all your brain was switched off... :)

    I had a big movie day on Saturday. Let me tell you what we did.

    Caught a 6pm showing at the Manchester Cornerhouse of a reissue of Fellini's "Amarcord". Went home, got a load of drinks and food and settled down for a movie binge. Watched a classic slice of '40s Hollywood in the shape of "The Devil and Daniel Webster", watched another early Fellini "Il Bidone" as we'd had our appetite whetted by "Amarcord", then finished off in the wee small hours of Sunday morning with "Die Hard". All movies were watched and enjoyed by all concerned with brains fully engaged.

    "My brain is swiched off! Hooray! What a positive act! I'm so proud!" Trust me - that isn't something to boast about...

    And why do you feel the need to constantly refer to your 750 movies? It doesn't bolster your argument. I've got over 2,000 DVDs and another few hundred on VHS. So what?

    Ah! The old "numbers game" (again) - and a totally pointless one. Because "...millions..." like something, doesn't mean it's any good. Not an argument.
     
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    Come on this is getting silly. And a little personal. The whole idea is that people like different films (or books, cars etc). If everyone objected so vehemently to someone else enjoying a film, forums like this grind to a halt or just stop being enjoyable. This is not an issue where you can prove a point, nor should you want to.
     
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    No one on here who has criticised the film has criticised it because it is "...unbelievable...", as in the subject matter being fantasy. They don't like it because they see it as an excruciatingly bad movie.

    I thoroughly enjoy many fantasy/horror movies, and own and enjoy many that feature the characters in this movie - Van Helsing, Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, the Wolf Man - love 'em. No problem with the subject matter, just the fact that this is the worst, most dull and unimaginative movie in creation to feature these characters, made all the more inexcusable by virtue of the fact that it is also the most expensive.

    A rich mythos and four of the richest characters in literature and cinema completely squandered at the hands of a hack director with no comprehension or feeling for what makes them enduring and universally appealing. Sommers cared about three things when making this movie:

    1) Starting a franchise for Universal.

    2) CGI

    3) More CGI

    A golden opportunity for a great movie thoroughly wasted.
     

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