Question Best Subwoofer Under £1000

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    1. Diagnosticz

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      I recently started thread on the best floor standing speakers under £3000 eventually went for PMC TWENTY5 23.

      I am now looking for the best sub under £1000 more between £700-£1000 has to be compact due to space max 40cm width so most likely sealed. I have a few on my mind SVS SB2000, Sunfire HRS10. Minimum 500 watt amplifier I know its difficult to recommend a sub as it depends on the room and placement etc i will be using it purely for movies.

      What do you guys own and what would be my best option
       
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      I would look at the XTZ 12.17 can be run sealed or ported and has a 500w amp and sells for £600.

      XTZ 12.17 Subwoofer
       
    3. Diagnosticz

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      Thanks Kbfern looks like something I could consider will have read up
       
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      Timely thread, though I’m looking with a 40cm height restriction rather than width unfortunately. That kicks out quite a few of the candidates in the price range.
       
    6. Diagnosticz

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      Rules the XTZ out then why the height restriction Your not placing a sub in a cabinet are you
       
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      For moves and music Arendal sub1.
       
    8. Diagnosticz

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      Another one I can consider I know of it was hoping to buy a sub within a week looks like I will have to get home trials of subs mentioned it's a difficult choice.
       
    9. Diagnosticz

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      Anyone have a PSA 1500 range little over budget though
       
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      No, I just have a single placement option below a wall mounted speaker that can’t be moved.
       
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      I had the PSA 1500 before my current dual XTZ 12.17.
      The PSA is a beast and certainly digs deep for movies. But in my new room with difficult room related issues the dual 12.17 are amazing. Tight and punchy bass with lots of tuning options and the current price is a bargain. Much better than the SB2000 which is around £250 more
      If you have room I would certainly advice you to go dual XTZ 12.17. Still would be just over a £1000 and the bass attack you will feel whether for movies or music will be awesome

      Sanjay
       
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      My first choice was the SB2000. But I am really beginning to like what the XTZ offers. I see they are at reduced price and with the Gloss black at no extra cost it makes sense. And I can House two of them. Just had a look at the smaller model on the website 10.17 it also uses a 500 watt amp. Wondering if its the same amp on the 12.17 I would have thought it would have a slightly more power. Did You start with a single first? if so how did it perform power wise played loud
       
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      It will be the same amp in the 10.17 and the 12.17, it will just have different dsp applied.

      For the money, the only thing to consider is dual bk400. Some say the xtz digs deeper, but through experience rather than quoting figures the bk actually has the better driver perse.

      Either options are very very good.
       
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      BK are big boxes difficult to House in my room
       
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      The 400 is smaller in mass than the 12.17

      The 10.17 aint "that" much smaller
       
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      The XTZ 12.17 and 10.17 are in a different league to the BK sub mentioned when it comes to placement flexibility and response. in terms of flexibility that's the same benefit offered by the entire XTZ range including the new Spirit Sub 12. The Spirit 12 plays to 400w and has plenty of tuning options, much like the XTZ 12.17.

      The 10.17 is noticeably smaller than the 12.17 in room.

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      And to be fair they look bloody good too:smashin:
       
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      The 10.17’s are definitely smaller than 12.17’s but I have not heard them personally so can’t really comment. You may want to pay a visit to Jag for an audition if you are undecided.
      The 12.17 I believe almost same size as the BK 400 ( I think a touch taller but definitely a bit narrower and same weight)
      I went dual seeingthe price on these things a how difficult my room was. It was a revelation running duals. Running as single (tried this for experiment) accommodating the limitations of my current room with certain nulls a single 12.17 was quite good as well without any strain. I would say to anyone looking for a sub under £1000 to consider 12.17 But once you have gone dual there is noway turning back:hiya:
       
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      Like you I have the same problems with nulls etc so the the XTZ tuning options appealed to me . I spoke with Jag who was very helpful so I ordered the 12.17 it was delivered today. Just single one for now and see how that goes then can add second later.

      Will get it setup in couple days
       
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      Congrats Diagnosticz, take your time to set it up. Haven’t listened much last few days. Christmas decorations taking priority.
      If you are really happy with one sub after setup then you may not need the other. For me , in my room it is like night and day when I switch off one sub and listen.
       
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      Thanks I will get it setup today I don't have much options for placement in my smallish room 4.5m by 4m being it's a big sub so will place in my usual spot one corner outside position next to left main. Wondering if I should place on a granite plinth or directly on the carpet minus spikes first then try spikes not sure what is recommend regarding this.

      I Will most likely run Audssey with both bungs in and then experiment with eq settings and port options. Interested to hear the difference these options provide.
       
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      If you run it sealed with Audussey and then turn it to ported i think that`s the wrong way to do it. :confused:
      It performs quite differently in sealed mode. From the XTZ graphs, i would rather start with; REF (eq) and left port open/right port closed.

      Use the granite plinth if you have one already. There is lot of positive stuff about it (on carpet) if you google some.

      Corner placement is highly recommended (example by SVS, Arendal Russell etc) especially as you have Audussey MultEQ XT32 which has great sub eq.


       
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      Why not put the sub on its side?
       
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      What about a SH SVS13SB Ultra?
      They appear occasionally on fleebay.
       
    25. Diagnosticz

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      I did look at this to big and over budget. Nice sub
       
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      Does anyone know how much (if any) the xtz cinema sub 1x12 improves on the 12.17?
      Also if I buy either of the above to replace my canton asd 250 sc sub, how much of an improvement am I likely to experience?
      All subjective possibly but would very much appreciate anyones opinion as I bought my old sub blind and have been happy with it but now have a strong urge to upgrade. Thanks in advance :smashin:
       
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      How large is your room (meters?), does it open to another space like hall etc. without doors?

      Which speakers you have, receiver?

      I have some numbers from XTZ and while 1x12 is ahead from 20-50hz it`s only couple db`s. 1x12 has slightly more beefier amp (dynamic power 1000w, 12.17 has 800w ). 1x12 has different dimensions if that matters and only 1 colour available. I also have subwoofer shootout (full measurements and blind tests) where 1x12 came second after SVS PB2000. It`s great sub for movies, but 12.17 probably gives +95% of the performance plus the tweaks and more colours to choose for 600£. :smashin:

      Lol, there is no comparison at all with your sub and XTZ. What you have is some cheap speaker manufacturer ported 10" sub with 80w rms amp. I might say dramatic difference!
       
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      Haha well thanks for your honesty. I didn’t think canton were cheap but the speakers I have are definitely at their lower end. I have the cd 300’s front and center. My amp is Yamaha RX A2020.

      My room is 4.5mx5.7mx2.35m, with just the one door which can be closed.

      I’m glad you think there will be a substantial improvement over my existing sub. It doesn’t sound like 1x12 is worth the extra cash over the 12.17? Size is not really an issue and black would be my colour choice...
       
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      Take a look at the Earthquake minime 12”
      I think pound for pound it’s simply the best. I’ve owned various subs and been fortunate to audition a few in situ (accommodating friends) from BK, KK dxd808, svs etc and cannot believe it’s power and depth.
      I suppose after over 30 years experience they should know a thing or two...
       
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      Yes it certainly sounds like it would be amazing however at over twice the price of the 12.17 it would be hard to justify as I’d be getting a significant upgrade over my canton with the xtz anyway...
      I could go with the xtz cinema or even the svs pb 2000 as size isn’t really a problem (I would prefer smaller all other things being equal). Which of those is “better”?
       

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