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Best sub up to £1k

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by Pulsar, Apr 5, 2005.

  1. Pulsar

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    Hello all.

    I am looking for some suggestions as to the best sub available for up to £1k that would meet the following requirements.

    - Can't be huge, say no bigger than 18" - 20 " cube
    - Would like wood veneer
    - Obviously looking for good performance

    I don't mind buying s/h, importing, bartering with a dealer etc.

    Suggest away folks.

    Cheers

    Rob

    P.S It can cost less that £1k, and possibly more if justified.
     
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    SVS PB12 Ultra in a wood finish could be a possiblity if it wasn't for that size limitation :(

    I'd look at the B&W ASW750 £rrp £1200), the Quad L Subwoofer (rrp £700) and that awesome Sony bargain http://www.avland.co.uk/sony/sawx900/index.htm Not as good as the ASW750 perhaps (going on reputation), but at £400 it is an absolute bargain :) and is probably a match for the Quad L Subwoofer.

    Any other suggestions people?
     
  3. Pulsar

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    Kazman.

    Thanks for that great info. Maybe the PB12 would be Ok, could use it as a coffee table...seriously.

    That Sony is interesting. It is listed as £499 on the avland site, is this right? Or is it £400 elsewhere? Do you have any links to reviews on it...I am searching google as we speak.

    I bet the B&W and Quad are dealers only, so rrp's apply...am I right?

    Cheers

    Rob
     
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    The Sony WAS £399, must have gone up in price again, but I'm sure others are selling it for £399......best thing to do is give the dealers a call.....especially the ones that stock the rrp only items, there is always room to haggle, and some people have got some great bargains :)
     
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    Looking at the SVS in the real wood veneers makes it seem very tempting. I do have 2 questions.

    Will the SVS be unhappy to have the ports firing very close to a wall, or maybe the side of a sofa?

    What is the final price for a PB-12 Ultra in my arms (site lists as $1299) ie what is the delivery & customs likely to cost?

    Cheers

    Rob
     
  7. Kazman

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    I think those questions would be better answered in the SVS forum :) put a post there and I'm sure someone will give you a more accurate answer than I can :)
     
  8. Pulsar

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    Thanks Kazman, I had forgot about the sub - sub forums lol

    Has anyone got any views on the Quad or B&W subs mentioned? Or can anyone make any other suggestions?

    Cheers

    Rob
     
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    Hello guys.

    I have been looking around, and have found a B&W ASW750 for sale at £799. It is a display model that hasn't been used and comes with 2 years warranty, boxed etc. This seems like a decent deal to me, but I just wanted to check that I would be making the right decision.

    I will probably be using the sub with same Gallo type ball speakers and a AV amp like the Denon 3805. Will the B&W be man enough to fill in the <120hz region that the satelites leave empty?

    Also, has anyone compared the B&W ASW750 to a SVS PB12 - Plus or Ultra? If so, how did it compare?

    Thanks in advance

    Rob
     
  10. Ian J

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    I think that both rags and Smurfin have compared the B&W to an SVS.

    If you wish to listen to a 20-39 PC Plus cylinder doing it's thing you are more than welcome to come and listen to mine
     
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    Yes thats right - we compared the ASW750 to a PB12-Plus/2 - the SVS performed better. I am sure there is a thread on it somewhere - just do a search.
     
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    Thanks for the offer Ian. Whilst I am sure that the 20-39 PC Plus performs well, it is just not viable due to the low WAF. :mad:

    Cheers

    Rob
     
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    Hi Rags

    I have searched for all the info I could find on the ASW 750, and didn't come accross this. Any chance you can just re-state the main points for me?

    Cheers

    Rob
     
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    So what was it you didn't like about your Velodyne?
     
  16. Pulsar

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    Hi Timmy C,

    I did like my Velodyne (SPL 1200). I sold it because I was planning to move away from AV for a while, but my girlfriend wants it back again. lol

    Rob
     
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    Hello there.

    Just to throw another name into the mix, what are people thoughts on the Sunfire range of subs? I see that the latest ones include some form of equalisitaion which looks nice. I have read a review from one of the magazines that sounded positive, but haven't seen much else.

    The main reason I ask is that I have spotted a Sunfire sub for what looks like a decent price. I think it is a model without eq, but has the dual 10" drivers and 2.7 kw amplifier. On specs alone it looks like a decent unit, but I would like to hear from anyone who has first-hand experience if them.

    I have searched the forum already, and digested what little there was there.

    Cheers

    Rob
     
  18. Kazman

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    Haven't heard the sunfire myself, but it does seem to have a very good reputation :).

    I still think it would be beneficial going to listen to Ians SVS PC Plus, it will sound VERY similar to the PB12 PC+ if not exactly the same, the different enclosures would probably have a say in the sound, with your budget though, you might be able to push for an SVS PB Ultra /2 :eek:
     
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    Hi Pulsar
    I would go with the B&Wasw750 for £799 which is a steal and you said looks where also important.The pb-ultra 2 would cost around £1500 so might be above your budget and it is quite big.
    Cheers Gonzo.
     
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    Thank you to everyone who gave me advice. I have decided to spend a bit more money, and go for a DD-15. The plan being that I shouldn't need to upgrade again...ever.

    Cheers

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    Woh that is quite a bit more :eek: but you definitly should not need to upgrade after that and you have built in EQ aswell very nice indeed :smashin:
     
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    I would also take a serious listen to the new REL Storm 5, small box, nice veneers and superb sound unless you have a concert hall for a living room.
     
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    Hi recruit,

    I know I have totally blown my £1k budget but my thinking went along the lines of; I could spend £1k on a decent sub, then maybe have frequency responce problems, then spend another £100 or so on a BFD or £500 on a SMS-1 and try and sort that out. But with this solution, I still wouldn't have all the power that a DD-15 has, along with the cone monitoring/feedback loop to protect it from being overdriven. Also, these subs, like most high-end gear hold their value so well that you could almost look at like an investment.

    Further to this, there appears to be some funky new software coming out soon that will do a decent auto-eq for the noobs, along with a whole host of other cool stuff. Like I said, I hope this to be the last sub I ever want or need to buy.

    Cheers

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    Welcome Rob... Awesome choice :)

    Still waiting for V2 software unfortunately, about 6 weeks ago it was made out that it was coming very soon and definitely by March - the wait is killing me!
     
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    As long as the rest of your system is up to scratch I am sure that it will pay dividends to buy the best subwoofer that you can afford but most of us don't have significant problems with our rooms and I am not sure that I would spend so much money to compensate for a problem that I don't actually have anyway.

    I would take issue with your comment about a Velodyne DD being an investment as nothing will hold it's value that is so heavily discounted when new.
     
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    I disagreee Ian, most people aren't aware that they have significant problems with their rooms. Just playing a slow frequency sweep will reveal plenty of areas where the volume changes. :)
     
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    Not sure what you mean, but the one Velodyne DD-15 that came up for sale on this forum went for a high % of the new price IIRC. I suppose what my comment meant was that unlike the £2,400 I paid for a brand new Sony HS10 that I later sold for £500, the DD should hold its value much better. Anyway the hope is that I shall never have to sell it. :thumbsup:

    Regarding not knowing about problems in my room, you are 100% correct. this is why I didn't want to risk £1000 on a subwoofer that might have sounded pretty aweful. I am quite confident that no matter how awkward my room is, I should be able to overcome any difficulties with the DD. :D

    Thanks again for your offer of demo'ing the SVS.

    Cheers

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    Hi Rob,

    I think you have made a wise choice and IMO EQ is probably one of the best options availible as most peoples rooms are never ideal unless it is a dedicated Home Cinema room with Acoustic Treatments, it also gives the choices of different settings so that you could have it set for Day use which would be Full on Bass,and Night Use which can tame the response down to a reasonable setting, there is just so much Flexiblity with it, also if EQ was not as important why would other Manufacturers start developing new ranges with this in mind, B&W are now produceing an upcomeing range with this Feature built in.

    All i can i say is be Happy with what you get and i am sure you will the DD15 is a mighty fine Sub and i am sure there will be alot of Forum members who would also love to own one. :smashin:

    Cheers
    John
     
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    Hi
    The velodyne sms-1 also has auto set up from what ive read.This should get the best out of anyones subwoofer,It will be intresting to see how good a job it can do, iam sure anyone whos spent a few bob on their sub would think about owning one.I think the auto set up will clinch it as the bfd can be quite daunting even though its cheaper.
    Cheers Gonzo. :)
     
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    DD-15 is a cracker mate, good choice :smashin: :)
     

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