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Best rears, explosions, shoot-outs, DTS etc.

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  1. The Limey

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    I'm always seeing these topics in this forum and I always enjoy giving my opinion on these matters because that's what I love about DVD and home cinema. Recently however there has been a definite lack in these 'best bit' questions.

    On a site I visit regularly (www.electronicreality.co.uk) there are a number of charts featuring among other things; Best DTS DVD, best overall DVD, best rears, best shoot-outs and more. Check them out for yourself (on the review page) because while I agree with some there are definitely others that I wouldn't pick (no ID4??).

    What do you all think? What would your charts be?

    Cheers.

     
  2. Elephant Man

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    Theres a big explosion in the movie Blade. When they visit the fat vamp.It always make me turn down the volume.
     
  3. PoochJD

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    Hi,

    This one's been mentioned before, but it'll go down as a classic:

    Michael Mann's "HEAT", when Pacino and co, do the bank-heist, and the shootout churns out onto the streets, after Val Kilmer sees a police officer! Noisy, but bloody brilliant! Oh, how I wish for a DTS version of this movie, with loads of extras, especially the shooting (if you pardon the pun) of this particular scene! Must've given Mann, one blinder of a headache to set this puppy up?!

    Pooch
     
  4. dUnKle

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    The club scene at the beginning of BLADE is also great for bass and so is that at the start of REPLACEMENT KILLERS.

    CHARLIES ANGELS has some very low, low frequancy sounds at the beginning and has some great music bass all the way from start to end.

    I found the rain and ambient effects in the DTS version of SEVEN were very good and made use of all the speakers
     
  5. Ace007

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    Just remember guys,

    You don't have to have a HUGE explosion or the BIGGEST shootouts to enjoy a film. Many people have lost the point in the middle of this boom of technology. At the end of the day it all boils down to the FILMS!!!


     
  6. Phil Hinton

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    Fair enough Ace but the question was what is the best bits of sound design in the opinion of people here,we are not saying that is the only reason to be into home cinema.

    My favourites for sound design are as follows:
    Toy Story 2 (Seriously good EX mix)
    Pitch Black DTS
    Seven DTS
    Terminator DD
    T2 DTS
    Fight Club DD
    Almost Famous DTS
    Gladiator DTS
    The Rock DTS
    Snatch DD
    dragonheart DTS
    Twelve Monkeys DTS
    The Haunting DTS ES

    Just a few of my favourites
     
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    Also Ace, according to mr Lucas sound is 50% of the experience.And in my opinion sound is very important to the enjoyment of a FILM.
     
  8. dUnKle

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    yeah ace ! who would come up with such a daft statement as that ? [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I Couldn't resist!

     
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    Fight club, plane crash, nuff said [​IMG]
     
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    One surround sound snippet I like the effect of is in Gladiator when Russell Crowe after being taken into the forest for his execution throws a sword to kill a Roman soldier.You hear the whizzing of the sword coming from the back speakers to the front before actually seeing it on screen as there is a slight delay.....I'm easily pleased [​IMG]

    martinc

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  12. Ace007

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    THX 1138,

    I think I did a flyby, I was just having a dig at Duncan, it was just a laugh [​IMG]

    I don't for one minute share the same view (just thought I'd clear that up! [​IMG]), I happen to agree with you! I personally see movies as an experience and the Sound can really draw you into a film. Like the force it Surrounds us [​IMG] !

    When EPISODE 1 is finally released on DVD the POD RACE will really give your system a workout!

    But out of my collection at the moment the best DVD's for sound are:

    Gladiator-DTS
    The Rock-DTS
    T2-DTS
    The Lost World-DTS
    Pitch Black-DTS
    What Lies Beneath-DTS (For atmospherics)
    Contact-DD
    Galaxy Quest-DD
    Matrix-DD
    Independence Day-DD
    Toy Story2-DD

    There are SOOOOO many more! But these are SOME of my favourites I could remember.

    Cheers
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    There are LOADS of movies and sequences I could name that are stunning in their sound design but here are some of my DVD collection favorites...

    The Matrix DD. The sequence where Neo is awoken in 'the rea world' with all the static electricity crackling around the soundstage

    The Perfect Storm DD. Any of the storms sequences

    Twister DTS. Any of the storm sequences..lol

    Pokemon The movie DD. Whenever Mewtwo talks telepaphically (No joke on this one...the first time my kids watched it was amazed at how good the sound design was...sahme about the movie..lol)

    The Bone Collector DTS. When Donaghy go into the steam pipe room to look around for clues after the woman has been killed. All the subtle drips and splashing sounds as weel as the subtle sounds used in the background make this a VERY unsettling sequence.

    U-571 DTS. The depth charge sequences...sub killers? more like subwoofer killers!!!

    Days of Thunder DD. When the cars "Start your engines" at the begining of the movie. The sound is very lacklustre up to this point and then it suddenly comes to life in all speakers...wonder if the DD mix was engineered this way?

    Tomorrow Never Dies DD. The into sequence and the BMW chase in the parking garage. Both are excellent examples of sound steerage.

    The Terminator DD. Not watched it all yet, but rom the bit I have I am amazed at the remastered sound on this compared to the original mono soundtrack I am used to.

    Toy Story 2 DD. The intro and the 'crossing the road' sequence, fantastic bass in these two an some nice rear effects in the road piece.

    ID4 DD. Any of the dogfight sequences. You are REALLY in those dogfights..it is THAT involving and enveloping.

    Titan AE DTS. INtro, Wake Angels and Ice Crystals.THE best demonstrations of DTS I have ever heard.

    Armageddon DD. From the point the shuttles take off to when they land on teh asteroid the sound never lets up.

    The Haunting DTS. 'Bump in the Night'. The creaks, the thumps and the amazing amount of bass in this movie is really shown in this chapter

    Gladiator DTS. All of it. It really is just a fantastic sound mix.

    T2 DTS. The rumble of the Harley everytime Arnie rides into shot...lovely.


    There are a lot more...but that will do.



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    Surprised nobody mentioned "The 5th Element", excellent soundtrack and there is always something going on on all channels.
    Best rear effects: testing of the gun.

    Other movies with great sound(effects):

    Lola rennt (Run, Lola, Run)
    The Long Kiss Goodnight
    The Matrix
    The Big Hit
     
  15. tee

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    Glad to hear that you visit my site Limey - you obviously have GREAT taste [​IMG]

    I was thinking about adding a definitive 'best picture' top 5 or top 10 to go along with all the other charts on the review page. I know this subject has been discussed in the past, but what are the thoughts of everyone who has replied so far?

    BTW, count the Toy Story films & A Bug's Life as just one - 'Pixar films'

    Any suggestions?

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    Yeah Tee, good idea mate.Best picture eh?

    How about these:

    South Park:Bigger.Longer & Uncut
    The Corruptor
    Copland
    Lost In Space
    Fifth Element

    keep up ther good work on your site mate.It's class

    Later
     
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    Not mentioned yet-

    Das Boot
    Superspeedway
     
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    Suprised no-one mentioned Ryans Privates (forget the beach landing I prefer the last battle with the tanks etc.) ...
    There is a great explosion at the end of Zorro ...
    Shootout at the end of LA Confidential ...
    Most of my other favs have been mentioned already ...

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    How about the crash sequence in Final Destination?

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  20. Tim Ashdown

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    Fifth Element (she dove off, the diva sequence)
    Gladiator (dts discrete - all of it)
    saving private ryan (dts - first twenty minutes)
    air force one (how can this have been missed, from when they notice smoke in the cabin to when the planes screech around you head. Also the end dogfight)
    blade (beginning & end)
    By the way, whats pitch black like. Been thinking of getting it.
     
  21. Black 5

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    Glad someone mentioned the explosion in Zorro at last - fantastic [​IMG]

    Also, there's some stonking explosions, etc in Drive.

    For overall quality sounds, apart from the others mentioned here like TS2 etc, I particularly enjoy Shakespeare in Love (very subtle), The Iron Giant, Titan AE, Face/Off, Enemy of the State and Romeo Must Die.
     
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    Tim, Pitch Black has been discused a few times on this forum and the opinions seem to be pretty much split 50-50 - some like it, some hate it. Personally I really love it, the first time I saw it I was actaully pretty much blown away - decent story, a few jumps and some solid action. Oh yeah, and the R1 version has a sensational DTS soundtrack..... [​IMG]

    I say get it right away but feel free to read my review - hopefully it will talk you into it [​IMG]
    www.tcday.demon.co.uk/reviewpage.htm



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  23. Wayne Moule

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    Does any one remember the first DVD titles to come out that had great sound,particularly the rears.I was listening for these the most,because 5.1 sound was new to me and I was looking forward to rear effects.I have since not been let down by 5.1.

    Anyway,titles not mentioned yet for rear action:-

    Legends Of The Fall,rear explosions.

    Jumanji,everything.Superb introdution to 5.1.

    The Haunting.Had to mention this again,as said above,the bass in this,with a sub,has got to be heard to be believed.

     

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