O.k...you know my views on the ellie-when i bought i auditioned everything bar the seleco ht200-i.m.h.o.the ellie had the most cinematic picture.(..in fact when i bought the ellie,i had just come from a demo of the sony) I have since seen the Seleco and would say,bar the ellie,it has the best picture currently available under 6k. But the best bargain,picture for price?...without a doubt-the toshiba mt1 at 2.5k. The sony nicks it from the Tosh-but is-at least-2k more expensive.(the new Tosh mt2z should be a brilliant bet if you cant go for the ellie..) The new Hitachi lcd-with their track record should be worth a look. So the rankings?...based on picture for price AND best picture-taking into account all failings known to to the different technologies....(1)Ellie..(2)Toshiba...(3)Seleco....(4)Sony. IF.. the Seleco was 3k,it would go to number 2 no problem. I think people must remember not to necessarily equate more expensive with better,the ellie is 4k-but worth 6k...the seleco is 6k-but worth 3-4k...the sony is 4-5k-but worth 3k. The Toshiba is 2.5k-which is about right,in fact the only correctly priced product of the 4.So solely on value the Toshiba is the runaway winner. And this is the trick-getting the best possible for the money..i think discounting the ellie,there is a nats between the other three-so it comes down to price...all good products..but i cant help feeling,that the Seleco and the Sony are ripping us off pricewise-and the reviewers are fuelling this-if you have a smaller room than 12ft square go for dlp or lcd...above this go for crt-but be under no illusion what the best picture is-crt.