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Discussion in 'Hi-Fi Stereo Systems & Separates' started by witters, Jun 25, 2005.

  1. witters

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    I'm looking at getting something along the lines of the Yamaha CRD-HD1500. Does anyone have any experience of this, or anything similar to recommend please?
     
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    Theres only really the Yamaha or CA 640H (coming out in august)

    From digging around my money is going on the 640H, why? Better on screen display, when you copy a cd onto the HD if its connected to the net it will search for the artist and title automatically and a usb port on the front for connecting and sharing music for ipods etc, the hard drive is only 160G though :rolleyes:
     
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    According to another thread on here about these 2, the 640H seems to have a lot better OSD.

    I'd be interested in seeing the CDR-1500's menu/functions though. Does anyone know if there's a manual out there on the net?
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    Couldn't see anything on Yamaha's site, but I know some companies (e.g. Pioneer) put the manuals as PDFs on the web - very useful for checking specific features.
     
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    Thank you! :thumbsup:

    Not sure why I couldn't find that search on their site though...
     
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    Well... having looked at the manual, I'd agree it doesn't seem that friendly.

    I found the concepts of album/disc a bit confusing. Does anyone who has one know if it's easy to create play lists?

    My biggest concern though is "CD Text". This is a new concept to me but it makes sense to have the album/artist/track information on the CD.

    How can I tell if my CDs have this information on? If even 20% of my CDs need to have this information entered manually I think I'd blow a fuse :suicide:
    Did this only happen after a certain date?
     
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    CD Text is fairly rare- Out of over 100 CD's that went onto my CDRH1300's drive, about three had it. Naming isn't that hard but playlists and the like are not especially self explanatory.
     
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    hi there, imho the best (and cheapest) sound server is an HTPC with an RME9632 sound card. I use uncompressed music with Xlobby as the front end with Winamp playing the wav files. I used madnat with CAT5 as the cables. All up it would cost you about £1000 pounds and would sound amazing compared to the yamaha (imho).

    CaM
     
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    I'd agree, only 1 of over 150 albums of mine has CD text.

    John
     
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    I have the same concerns as Carefactornil. The yam looks a great machine but the CD track info worries me. Is it a pain in the **** to put in.
     
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    That's a better return than me. Of approx 1,000 CDs I have text on 1!
     
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    I don't know how much you are looking to spend but if you have a computer to do the ripping you could conider getting a network hard disk+network music player. I use a Sonos multi-room system as the player and a Linkstation (comes various sizes) to store music. You could also consider Sqeezebox + linkstation (need to hack the linkstation to run server for squeezebox but plenty of info on the net to do this).
     
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    When I get round to looking at this more earnestly I'll probably re-evaluate the 640h from CA. There were a lot of teething troubles but I'll be interested to see how it's faring 1 year on.

    The Sonos & Squeezebox are interesting ideas. I have a laptop rather than a PC so it's not always on. Therefore the Linkstations are a good idea.
    How would I get the musix onto the Linkstation though? My laptop has a DVD-reader so would I read the CDs in on that and have it connected to the Linkstation initially to copy the tracks onto the Linkstation?

    The other major consideration for me is remotes. I have a Phillips Pronto TSU 7000 for everything now. I really don't want to have another remote if I can help it, even if the Sonos one looks lovely. Is there any way to control the Sonos using a remote like the Pronto? Am I right in thinking the RF properties of the Pronto / Extender are worthless for the Sonos?

    Does the Squeezebox have a similar issue - the remote looks like a normal one? And would I get the tracks onto/off the Linkstation using the same method mentioned above?

    Thanks.
     
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    As your laptop has a DVD drive then - yes you can rip your CDs with that then copy the music over onto the linkstation.
    You would need to set up a small home network to get everything to work together if you haven't already done that for your laptop.

    AFAIK the Squeezebox is a standard remote that you'll be able to teach your pronto to emulate - no idea about the Sonus.

    I use an old small PC with a big hard drive, running www.twonkymedia.com and Netgear MP101 MP3 players at home. You may find more info on this type of system in the MP3 players forum here.
     
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    I don't think I've done this - what is a "small home network"? i.e. what am I missing that I need? (assuming I get a Linkstation)
     
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    I'm a little beyond my comfort zone with these devices as I don't have either but I'll try and help.

    In my home I have cable broadband. Connected to this is a wireless router. This gives my computers and music players IP addresses allowing them all to talk to each other and share the broadband. So when I start my MP3 player it connects to the router and then that connects it to the music server with the MP3 files on it. That's my small home network.

    My understanding is that the Linkstation (etc.) acts as a hard drive that can be accessed over a Local Area Network. So in my set up I would tell the Linkstation how to get an IP address from the Wireless Router and all the other devices would be able to access files on it e.g. my music.

    If I added a squeezebox or sonus player into the network it would be able to access music on the Linkstation because they all belong to the same network.


    If you can plug a linkstation them into your laptop as a USB hard drive and copy the music from your laptop to the Linkstation then you don't need the network for that. Assuming that works, if the sonus or Squeezebox can access a USB hard drive directly and you want them both in the same room then you don't need the network for that either.

    If you currently access the internet on your laptop by plugging in a modem/broadband connection directly then you probably don't have a local area network.

    If I were considering the options you are I would probably want to set up a network so the Linkstation, laptop, music player could all talk to each other easily. Assuming you have broadband then a cheap combined ADSL modem and wireless router would allow everything to work together. It would also allow you to use your laptop in other rooms which is nice - I like being able to check my email in front of the TV.
     
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    Sounds like you don't have a home wireless network already. Here is the solution with Sonos.

    1) You are happy to plug in your laptop occasionally to one of the Sonos players. DON'T WANT TO SET UP ANY HOME NETWORK

    Sonos 1 -wired- linkstation
    -occasionally plug in- laptop

    ~~ wireless links (all built in to Sonos) to ...

    Sonos 2
    Sonos 3
    etc.

    To load on music you rip it on your laptop then occasionally plug into your Sonos (can be any player they all have 4 sockets) to copy music from the laptop to your system.


    2) You want wireless laptop as well. YOU ARE PREPARED TO BY WIRELESS HOME NETWORK GEAR TO DO THIS.

    Sonos 1 -wired- Wireless Router -wired- linkstation

    ~~ wireless links (needs the wireless router as well now) to...

    Laptop - with wireless card
    Sonos 1
    Sonos 2
    etc.

    Now you can access the misic storage from your laptop whenever it is switched on as it will tlk wirelessly to the router/sonos/broadband. This is how I have it and I just tell iTunes to store any music it rips directly onto the linkstation.



    Solution 2 above would also work with Squeezebox. Solution 1 could be made to work with squeezebox but only if you were happy with a limit of two squeezeboxes.
     
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    @witters I have a YamahACDR15000 and I am still not read up enough on it to fully operate I still record 70min. groups and the sound is chilling over Altec VOTT . You need a crystal clear source for max sound. This is my first Yamaha CDRecorder ! It failed when I first purchased but Hayes Sight and Sound of Reno Co. KS. rebuilt it with all new parts under the warranty. Hard to beat the hard drive with transfer to CD !
     

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