Question Best Earbuds to pair with Samsung S10?

Violator

Well-known Member
Let me start by saying I love my audio, and I like it to sound the best it can. I'm currently using an old set of Sennheiser wired earphones with my S10, but they are getting a bit battered and I'd love to be free of the cable when I'm out and about.

So, I've been looking at wireless earbuds. Now the codec support is a bit complex and I'm trying to figure out what combination will give me the best audio from earbuds (I am well aware it won't be up to wired standards).

I've looked at the Sony wf-1000xm3 and the Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 2, both seem to have pros and cons.

The codecs you want appear to be either Aptx, Aptx HD or LDAC. The S10 doesn't support Aptx HD and doesn't appear likely to, LDAC is supported, but is also Sony proprietary and only on their earbuds.

Will Aptx be 'sufficient'? Bear in mind I only use FLAC/ALAC files on my phone as a rule.

I'm not too fussed about cost, I don't mind paying for performance, but I don't want to get an expensive set to find out they aren't going to work fully with the S10.

Any suggestions?
 

JayCee

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Buy and try the Sony WF-1000XM3's, they sound wonderful.
I recently bought them and the Apple Airpod Pro's after reading reviews and although the Airpod Pro's are the best Apple wireless IEM's to date (now that you can change the tips) and have incredible noise cancelling, the XM3’s blow them out the water as far as sound quality goes.
On paper you may assume the lack of aptx is a problem, it isn't, at least not in my case, Sony work wonders with their headphone audio tech these days, the sound out of these is incredible, spacious, airy, just the right amount of low, mids and highs and great detail.
I returned the Airpod Pro's and sold my Melomania 1’s. The XM3’s are keepers.
I know the XM4’s are due for release soon which will probably have better multipoint Bluetooth and possibly better battery life (not that I'm unhappy with the 6 hours of mine) but as to sound quality, I doubt they can be improved on, they’re that good.
 

Violator

Well-known Member
Buy and try the Sony WF-1000XM3's, they sound wonderful.
I recently bought them and the Apple Airpod Pro's after reading reviews and although the Airpod Pro's are the best Apple wireless IEM's to date (now that you can change the tips) and have incredible noise cancelling, the XM3’s blow them out the water as far as sound quality goes.
On paper you may assume the lack of aptx is a problem, it isn't, at least not in my case, Sony work wonders with their headphone audio tech these days, the sound out of these is incredible, spacious, airy, just the right amount of low, mids and highs and great detail.
I returned the Airpod Pro's and sold my Melomania 1’s. The XM3’s are keepers.
I know the XM4’s are due for release soon which will probably have better multipoint Bluetooth and possibly better battery life (not that I'm unhappy with the 6 hours of mine) but as to sound quality, I doubt they can be improved on, they’re that good.
Very helpful, thank you :) Can I ask what device you use and what format your music is in?
 

JayCee

Distinguished Member
I use them mainly with my iPhone Xs Max and Apple music which is 256K AAC and 320K MP3’s and the Vox music player app.
Also in use are an iPhone 6+ stripped of every app possible used exclusively for playing music via the (sadly no longer available) “Tuneshell” music player and filled with 56GB of Flac and 320K MP3’s, also a Shanling M2s DAP gets used occasionally.
Music played is 99% Movie soundtracks.
 

Violator

Well-known Member
I use them mainly with my iPhone Xs Max and Apple music which is 256K AAC and 320K MP3’s and the Vox music player app.
Also in use are an iPhone 6+ stripped of every app possible used exclusively for playing music via the (sadly no longer available) “Tuneshell” music player and filled with 56GB of Flac and 320K MP3’s, also a Shanling M2s DAP gets used occasionally.
Music played is 99% Movie soundtracks.
If they had a downside, what would it be? In your opinion.
 

JayCee

Distinguished Member
Probably how they look, they are bigger/broader than the competition but TBH that doesn’t bother me as I rarely wear headphones or earbuds outside.
I’ve no idea what the mic or call quality is like as I use them purely for listening to music.
 

psikey

Distinguished Member
I have a Fiio BTR5 that does high quality LDAC with my high-end IEMS's but I recently got some Samsung Buds+ and amazed how good they are for their price point. Perfect control & can use the Samsung Adaptive BT with the S10+ which I also use. Its Samsung's alternative to LDAC. I only use these when out exercising though.

Heard WF-1000XM and not impressed to be honest for SQ, unless noise cancelling is your main priority.

I don't use Headphones much as I prefer IEM's. I bought a pair of Audeze Mobius 3D headphones for gaming/TV but amazing music sound quality over BT LDAC from my S10+ too. I just take the microphone off (only 10hr battery but plenty for me). Far better SQ than Sony or B&W BT ones IMO. Not noise cancelling so no good if you need that. I prefer them to the HD660S & HD800 I had! They are planar magnetic type, great base.
 
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Violator

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Does anyone have experience of the Sennheiser 2s? How they might compare?
 

JayCee

Distinguished Member
Does anyone have experience of the Sennheiser 2s? How they might compare?
I ordered the Sennheiser True Wireless Momentum 2’s on Thurs from Amazon, got them on Fri and will be packing them and returning them for a refund later today.
I just wanted to see how they compared to my Sony XM3's...no contest, the Sony's are far superior for sound quality, fit, volume level...and price.
The Sennheiser's come with silicone tips only, no foam tips are supplied. I knew this before I ordered them but it wasn't a problem as I had some third party foam tips which fitted them (INAIRS Air1 S,M,L also from Amazon).
I downloaded and installed the companion Sennheiser “Smart Control” iOS app for them which straight away signalled there was a firmware update needed on the TW2’s. This took around 30 mins then I tried them on tracks I know well.

The first noticeable thing was a lack of volume, I had to increase it to around 90% on my player (Apple Music on iPhone Xs Max) compared to my normal 65-70% using the Sony's (and Airpod Pro's). I also found they lacked a wee bit of bass compared to the Sony's but this can be overcome by using the equaliser in the app.
The one big disappointment was the noise cancelling, or lack of it, i switched it on and off a good few times using the controls on the earpiece but it hardly made any difference whatsoever TBH.
The app isn't as polished as the Sony's either, so overall the Sennheiser's are a big disappointment, not worth their price tag and I'm sticking with my XM3’s.
 

Violator

Well-known Member
Thanks for all the advice JayCee , much appreciated :)
 

Violator

Well-known Member
Regarding the Sony WF-1000XM3s, codec support seems to be different depending what site you look at. Some say it supports LDAC (which is Sony proprietary) and others say it doesn't. Same with AptX.

I can't settle for SBC or AAC, not at this price. Does anyone know for sure?
 

jizzlejimbo

Active Member
Mine does AAC and DSEE HX (don't propriety?)

Is there a difference in reality between aac and aptx in the real world? I thought AAC is just as good but is less efficient
 

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