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Best Buy Projectors of 2017

daredevill

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Still torn between the Optoma and the Epson :(
 

jakimp

Well-known Member
the beauty is that you cant make a bad choice whichever way you chose to go as projector performance at £3,999 and below has never been this good
 

NinjaMonkeyUK

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Still torn between the Optoma and the Epson :(
Epson gets my vote. I have the EH-TW9300; it's my first projector and I couldn't be happier with it! :)
 

paulr2006

Distinguished Member
I bought an Epson TW9300W December 2016 which I had Pro calibrated & yes it's a nice projector, however I have just swapped to a JVC 5900 & have to say it's a leap ahead in terms of PQ & black levels even with the out of the box settings. Yes the list price is higher but if you shop around you can get it for not a lot more than the Epson. The only downside I can really see is the cost of replacement lamps being circa 4 times more than the Epson but to me it's worth the extra.
 

Abacus

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Still torn between the Optoma and the Epson :(
Well The Epson cannot compete with the Optoma for resolution, (The difference sticks out like a sore thumb even at normal viewing distance (Without the need for direct comparison) but the Epson does WCG and convenience features (Lens memory etc.) that make it a more luxurious contender over the Optoma, but it is BIG in size in comparison.

If I was upgrading my current projector, I would save a bit more and go with the JVC, as apart from brightness (Which is a little low) it has everything the Epson & Optoma has, alternatively you can wait and see what CES brings to the table, as laser light sources are dropping in price and we may get 2nd generation 4K DLP. (While 2017 has been the year of 4K projectors, I suspect 2018 will be when they come of age)

Bill
 

danny daniell

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Is the JVC 7900 worth the extra over the 5900?
 
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paulr2006

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mambo1888

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Is the JVC 7900 worth the extra over the 5900?
Im still mulling over these two (even though im trying my best to put off upgrading for another year or two)

One of the biggest things for me is the 5900 doesn't have an automatic lens cover. Obviously this is a pretty trivial issue and definitely wouldn't warrant the extra money for that reason alone but Im not sure I could go with a PJ without an automatic lens cover now. I think if the 5900 had this I would have caved in and upgraded by now.
 

danny daniell

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Im still mulling over these two (even though im trying my best to put off upgrading for another year or two)

One of the biggest things for me is the 5900 doesn't have an automatic lens cover. Obviously this is a pretty trivial issue and definitely wouldn't warrant the extra money for that reason alone but Im not sure I could go with a PJ without an automatic lens cover now. I think if the 5900 had this I would have caved in and upgraded by now.
I agree with you 100% about the automatic lens cover. I bought my X500 new for around £3,500 and was very disappointed it didn’t have one ... a bit tight on JVC’s behalf, especially when my cheaper DILA 350 did.

My X500 needs a new bulb and I don’t know wether to sell it and buy a new 5900/7900, just so I can play some 4k discs and see what all fuss is with HDR. The best thing for me would be to seek out some demonstrations I will know then if the extra £££’s are worth it.
 
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mambo1888

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I agree with you 100% about the automatic lens cover. I bought my X500 new for around £3,500 and was very disappointed it didn’t have one ... a bit tight on JVC’s behalf, especially when my cheaper DILA 350 did.

My X500 needs a new bulb and I don’t know wether to sell it and buy a new 5900/7900, just so I can play some 4k discs and see what all fuss is with HDR. The best thing for me would be to seek out some demonstrations I will know then if the extra £££’s are worth it.
We are in a very similar position mate. I can understand that they need to leave features out to reduce costs and to give the more expensive models have extra features. I would have jumped on the X5900 for sure if it had one, but now I keep going back and forward between the two and cant settle with not having the auto lens cover or paying the extra for the 7900.

The other problem is that I still get a great picture out of the X70 even with 1400 hours on the lamp. Im not sure what its value is but it will still pay a little towards the upgrade, so that will also play a factor in wether upgrading now is the right time or if Im better waiting.
 

paulr2006

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Must admit a lens cover was never even on my list, yes the Epson 9300w I had before had one but I have never used a lens cap on any of the pj’s I’ve had, really can’t see the need?
 

jakimp

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never used the one on the sony 55es I had before as it always seemed to affect focus setting if I did

maybe Epson fit one to help with dust issues ?
 

mambo1888

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Must admit a lens cover was never even on my list, yes the Epson 9300w I had before had one but I have never used a lens cap on any of the pj’s I’ve had, really can’t see the need?
Yeah I get that its trivial compared to picture quality/performance and probably not high on most folks list when comparing projectors. Im not keen on the idea of the lens being open to dust for extended periods. I have been doing a little googling to see what others think of leaving the lens cap off though and it does seem like quite a few folks are the same as yourself and dont use one. My first PJ was an Optoma HD30 and I always tried to keep the lens cover on when not in use.

I have one of those electric air blowers instead of using cans of compressed air, so I guess I could maybe use that to give it a dust once a month.
 

paulr2006

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Yeah I get that its trivial compared to picture quality/performance and probably not high on most folks list when comparing projectors. Im not keen on the idea of the lens being open to dust for extended periods. I have been doing a little googling to see what others think of leaving the lens cap off though and it does seem like quite a few folks are the same as yourself and dont use one. My first PJ was an Optoma HD30 and I always tried to keep the lens cover on when not in use.

I have one of those electric air blowers instead of using cans of compressed air, so I guess I could maybe use that to give it a dust once a month.
With cameras I always used lens caps but that was mainly due to the risk of damage being handled. So if your pj is on the ceiling or up,on a shelf it’s obviously less likely to be damaged, if on a low shelf/table and kids involved then yes!
 

mambo1888

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With cameras I always used lens caps but that was mainly due to the risk of damage being handled. So if your pj is on the ceiling or up,on a shelf it’s obviously less likely to be damaged, if on a low shelf/table and kids involved then yes!
My PJ is mounted tight to the ceiling so no chance of mucky fingers getting near it, my main concern is dust. After reading a few threads about people bot using a lens cover it has eased my concern a bit though. Ive also been reading through the owners thread this morning and read that to get the best out of the upgrade to X7900 you need a bat cave which Im lucky enough to have, so I guess its becoming more of a price/performance choice and less about the lens cover.
 

paulr2006

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My PJ is mounted tight to the ceiling so no chance of mucky fingers getting near it, my main concern is dust. After reading a few threads about people bot using a lens cover it has eased my concern a bit though. Ive also been reading through the owners thread this morning and read that to get the best out of the upgrade to X7900 you need a bat cave which Im lucky enough to have, so I guess its becoming more of a price/performance choice and less about the lens cover.
When I bought my 5900 and then read the AVF review I thought I had made a mistake as my room is very light. So I was very pleasantly surprised to find I had such a great PQ and black level, far superior to my previous Epson TW9300. Obviously things would be even better with black walls and ceiling but it’s really good as is.
 

jakimp

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When I bought my 5900 and then read the AVF review I thought I had made a mistake as my room is very light. So I was very pleasantly surprised to find I had such a great PQ and black level, far superior to my previous Epson TW9300. Obviously things would be even better with black walls and ceiling but it’s really good as is.
react screen?

I rarely need encouragement to spend more on AV kit but I am really trying hard to keep my 9300W for at least one more year as I cant help thinking JVC or Epson must make a true 4K machine soon and I would be gutted if I dropped £2k or more on a move to another faux k machine and less than a year later ....

besides still pretty happy with the Epson and the latest firmware has made HDR really good imo
 

paulr2006

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jakimp

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think you might be surprised - I was when I changed - huge difference in a non batcave room and how good might the blacks be then?

easy game this when spending someone else's hard earned :laugh:
 

jakimp

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did you have to buy the 3D kit on top? that sort of bugs me a bit as well as I have a number of 3D films I would want to watch still
 

mambo1888

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When I bought my 5900 and then read the AVF review I thought I had made a mistake as my room is very light. So I was very pleasantly surprised to find I had such a great PQ and black level, far superior to my previous Epson TW9300. Obviously things would be even better with black walls and ceiling but it’s really good as is.
Theres no doubting that they are both great projectors, I was meaning from what I read, that without having a light controlled room the 7900 might not be worth the extra money compared to the 5900.

As my room is completely black (walls, ceiling, skirting, door, curtains, carpet the lot lol) I might get a noticeable performance boost out of the 7900.

Ive still not seen any demo's so that should probably be my first move.
 

paulr2006

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react screen?

I rarely need encouragement to spend more on AV kit but I am really trying hard to keep my 9300W for at least one more year as I cant help thinking JVC or Epson must make a true 4K machine soon and I would be gutted if I dropped £2k or more on a move to another faux k machine and less than a year later ....

besides still pretty happy with the Epson and the latest firmware has made HDR really good imo
Don’t get me wrong Tim, my pro calibrated 9300w was good and some said a 5900 was a sideways step but I can assure you they were wrong! And I really can’t believe the difference in black levels. It will eventually be pro calibrated but out of the box on this unit is really good.
 

paulr2006

Distinguished Member
Theres no doubting that they are both great projectors, I was meaning from what I read, that without having a light controlled room the 7900 might not be worth the extra money compared to the 5900.

As my room is completely black (walls, ceiling, skirting, door, curtains, carpet the lot lol) I might get a noticeable performance boost out of the 7900.

Ive still not seen any demo's so that should probably be my first move.
I think that would be wise and yes the 7900 should be better in your case but I’m sure the 5900 would impress you too.
 

jakimp

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Don’t get me wrong Tim, my pro calibrated 9300w was good and some said a 5900 was a sideways step but I can assure you they were wrong! And I really can’t believe the difference in black levels. It will eventually be pro calibrated but out of the box on this unit is really good.
Paul I know it would be a decent upgrade - I have already touched base with Al but I am trying to maintain resolve

besides which I spent a lot on a car upgrade in November - I might be more addicted to cars than to AV stuff and that is saying something - so finances require some healing :(
 

paulr2006

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Paul I know it would be a decent upgrade - I have already touched base with Al but I am trying to maintain resolve

besides which I spent a lot on a car upgrade in November - I might be more addicted to cars than to AV stuff and that is saying something - so finances require some healing :(
Totally understand lol
 

jakimp

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danny daniell

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Paul I know it would be a decent upgrade - I have already touched base with Al but I am trying to maintain resolve

besides which I spent a lot on a car upgrade in November - I might be more addicted to cars than to AV stuff and that is saying something - so finances require some healing :(
I know what you mean, I bought a 991 a year ago and that has put a pretty big dent on my AV finances! o_O

I am starting to think my best and most cost effective upgrade might be an ALR screen, how close does it get towards the effect of a real bat cave? (White walls here!) Inevitably I will upgrade from the X500 but think an ALR might keep me happy until JVC release a true 4k machine at a reasonable price.

Cheers
Danny
 

jakimp

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I know what you mean, I bought a 991 a year ago and that has put a pretty big dent on my AV finances! o_O

I am starting to think my best and most cost effective upgrade might be an ALR screen, how close does it get towards the effect of a real bat cave? (White walls here!) Inevitably I will upgrade from the X500 but think an ALR might keep me happy until JVC release a true 4k machine at a reasonable price.

Cheers
Danny
yes finances well dented - cash fund used and exhausted to swap F Type for a 991 Carrera S - poorer but chuffed . had 5 911's in the past but not for 8 years or so.

my react screen was the best money I have spent on the AV kit probably in the last 5 years. my room has decent light control from the outside but white ceiling and coffee coloured walls so no bat cave.

it will last for ages - mine has outlived a JVC X30 and a Sony 55 and will outlive my current Epson 9300W and a few more I suspect

the boost in contrast and black level was well worth the investment in my view

I would demo one if you can - it might give a few months more life from your JVC
 

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