Best Buy 4K Ultra HD HDR LED TVs over £1,600

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    1. Steve Withers

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      I'm really in a quandary here. Just can't make my mind up between the 902 or the ZD9. Don't watch a lot of normal TV but do watch a lot of films and do a fair bit of gaming. I'd love someone to tell me if the Sony is worth an extra grand or not compared to the 902. I have a Panny 65VT50 at the moment and a KRP 500a in the bedroom. Can anyone sway my decision either way?
       
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      Well the ZD9 is almost twice the price of the DX902 and it certainly isn't twice as good. Right now the DX902 isn't just a fantastic TV but also amazing value.
       
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      I certainly addressed the first two in my full review and I didn't find the screen to be overly reflective but then in my lounge that is rarely an issue. As far as the feet go I completely agree but you can buy a stand with a much smaller footprint that uses the VESA mounts for about £40 on Amazon and fix that problem. As for the fans, I never found them to be a issue in all the time that I had the 58 and 65" DX902s, in fact I only ever heard them with the sound off and my head right by the TV.
       
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      I would like to ask THE question but don't want it to turn into a OLED Vs LED debate. Yeah I know it will do :rolleyes:. I have the 2015 Sammy JS9000 and it done a good job on the HDR front and a good all rounder . The idea was to keep it until OLED sorted out the issues on early displays and jump in as I came from a plasma background and prefer the picture it produced at the time .

      So simple question whilst watching UHDs do the 2016 LEDs or more so FALD have a higher overall impact on UHD HDR viewing over OLED due to the higher peak brightness they can go ?
       
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      Hi raduv1,

      Good question really. The simple answer is yes, the LED backlights have higher peak brightness and Steve Withers does favour this 1000 nit plus peak for HDR over the 500 to 600 available with current OLED's. Other reviewers, such as David Katzmaier of CNET prefer the deep OLED blacks and in a darkened room, the HDR performance over the current high end LED's in spite of higher peak brightness possibly because of the contrast between absolute black and 600 nits or so of peak brightness. At this stage of the game it probably comes down to taste etc.
       
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      The 2 HDMI 2.0a versus 4 HDMI 2.0a inputs is another good point Roundhed.
       
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      This close to CES, I'd definitely wait to see what gets announced in a few weeks time. The 2016 OLEDs were superb and I expect the next generation to be brighter and hopefully more manufacturers will get involved in the OLED market.
       
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      Are curved TVs still a thing? I honestly can't see the point, I thought they were a gimmick. Can anyone enlighten me as to the benefits?
       
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      Not really, I'll doubt we'll see many at CES, even from Samsung.
       
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      Is there really much of a difference between the Samsung KS9000 and KS8000 at the 65" size? I was planning on choosing between one of those and the LG C6 OLED. The LG is curved, but otherwise does anyone know of reasons to go with one over the other?
       
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      Aside from the curved screen, the KS9000 and KS8000 are identical.
       
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      Steve,
      Neither Samsung has the curved screen. The 9500 and 8500 are curved. From what I can tell, the only difference between the KS9000 and 8000 model is the 9000 has a 60w speaker and the 8000 has a 40w. Would you agree? How do you think the LG model OLED stacks up for watching blu rays, streaming Netflix, and PS4 gaming?
       
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      In the UK the KS9000 is curved and the KS8000 is flat, I'm not really in a position to comment on US models as I haven't seen them. The LG OLEDs are superb for Blu-rays and streaming but for gaming the Samsung's are king with a 21ms lag.
       
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      Ahhh. Forgot about the U.K. Difference! So the curve aside the 9000 isn't worth the extra money? I watch more than I game. So OLED would be best for me? Thanks for feedback!!
       
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      Be careful with the silly Samsung model differences.
      US - UK
      KS9800 = KS9500 Both Curved
      KS9500 = KS9000 Both Curved
      KS9000 = KS8000 Both Flat
      KS8500 = KS7500 Both Curved
      KS8000 = KS7000 Both Flat
       
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      Surprised not to see the E6 on the list especially at its current price. Personally I think it out performs the DX902 which imo is the best of the LED sets.
       
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      I did completely forget about that! So I guess my question should have been, is there a tangible difference between the KS8000 and KS7000 (UK models). I'm not looking to get a curved Samsung. I've read if you're going to get curved, the LG is the way to go because you have a wider viewing angle compared to the Samsungs.
       
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      This 2016 review is another one that separates LED and OLED into two separate articles, probably so that you stay awake at night wondering which you should buy... :(
       
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      Wow, sorry but no way is the DX902 as good as the ZD9, well certainly not the one I tested. I really didnt like the way it implemented its local dimming at all. Also I found its motion handling poor too. On top of that it is reflective. Totally appreciate this is just my opinion but the ZD9 with UHD material was considerably better and with upscaled 1080 stuff the Sony's processing is fantaistic. The only TV I think is close to the big Z is the LG E6 but at 75" that isnt an option.

      To my eyes I would rather pay the extra and go for the Sony or wait until CES and see what LG has up its sleeve for 2017 or Sony (with their forthcoming OLED's at sensible pricing). I bought the 75" ZD9 and its bar far the best TV I have ever owned, mine has superb screen uniformity (zero banding and DSE), superb motion handling and 4k material looks totally amazing. Its the best LCD money can buy in my opinion - certainly in the 75" size.
       
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      This article covers the best LED TVs over £1,600, we'll cover the best OLED TVs in a separate article.
       
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      I have till Monday to make my mind up in terms of receiving either set in time for Christmas. Still mulling it over. But I would like to ask/speculate why the hell Sony would only have two hdmi 20.a connections on a flagship TV. If I want to connect an xbox one S, a ps4 pro, an Oppo/Panasonic UHD Player and say Sky Q, then I'll need 4. This is quite frustrating and I just don't understand the thinking behind this at all.
       
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      I don't think the are any differences, maybe just tuner/regional differences between NA and EU models but that's it.
       
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      I went from a JS9000 to a 902B, and I can tell you this, edge lit sets get a bad press imo in regards to HDR! All this only Fald and OLED can achieve decent HDR.....well the JS9000 could actually achieve really nice contrast and impact, but it could get caught out in dark scenes with bright highlights lighting up half the screen when not much in the way of highlights are being displayed, and for me this is where a Fald earns its bucks, but even that can get caught out with blooming sometimes, but the added impact with the higher peaks and localised blacks can be very impressive.

      It's funny because I'm almost more impressed with its SDR performance on the 902, very impressive with very little blooming, you could say OLEDesc.

      If you were thinking of upgrading now, with the prices that the 902 are going for, it's well worth it, and imo the bargain TV of 2016! Even a guy I know, who owns an ZD9 said it isn't much better than the 902 which is half the price, and has better colour performance and a brighter 100% full field.
       
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      I think Samsung will be pushing oval televisions at CES 2017, they are the new thing and increase immersion in the focus point of the picture because they are the same shape as the human eye.

      :D
       
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      I didn't find the fans too intrusive on my DX902 but you could hear them during silent shots.

      The reflective screen I found horrendous in my room and was my main reason for returning it. I also wasn't impressed with motion handling.
      Now a happy KS8000 owner.

      Lee
       
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      Mine looks washed out on most content, basically anythin upscaled. I'm not seein deep blacks at all & I have everythin collaborated. I honestly saw much better blacks on my k6000 & k5500 which doesnt make sense!.

      Games like Watch dogs 2 should look amazing on this tv but on mine it looks really flat. There's also a faint horizontal line across the screen on apps like iplayer. It seems to 'focus' like a lens at times as well. Is this normal?.

      I'd hate to return it without trying native 4k but so far colours aside, the picture quality is worse than those entry level samsungs :thumbsdow.
       

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